Barbie Kardashian is in a women's prison. Taoiseach's response to questions on this are here..

A tiny fraction of the population are trans. Thule incidence of one of these people entering a bathroom with women will be rare. And even then large majority will not be attracted to women. So a fraction of a tiny fraction. And even so the vast majority of people do not commit sexual offences. So a tiny fraction of a fraction of a tiny fraction. And even so in the majority of cases sexual offences are perpetrated by people known to the victim. The potential for incidents associated with this is incredibly rare. That’s why ye are leaping on a single case of a violent individual.

You completely missed the posters point, the vast majority of sex offences are committed by people known to the victim.

The majority of which are men.

Have you an irrational fear of all men on that basis or more specifically men who you know?

Are you a militant feminist?

what makes you think sexual predators who would be devious enough to pretend to be trans to encounter women in the bathroom would not find other ways? In fact public toilets would tend to have multiple people and be in environments where getting away with it would be less likely

The question I was responding to was in relation to whether or not a mental illness would prohibit a person from applying for a GRC. It doesn’t. The individual in question here has never been diagnosed with any significant mental illness, so the question isn’t relevant here on two fronts.

Everyone who is responsible for their care has pretty much concluded that the individual in question is a fantasist with a victim mentality who gets their kicks out of shocking people, and will do and say pretty much whatever it takes to get attention, generally negative attention. You’ve followed the case and you’ve read the reports so you know it’s not just women they target, and it’s not just women they’ve attacked either. They’ve attacked other residents in the care facilities they were in, and they’ve attacked staff, both women and men.

If memory serves correctly, I know you’re experienced in social care work in some capacity, not that I’m inquiring to know the actual details, I’m making the point that you would be at least somewhat familiar with the statistics on attacks on social care workers in the course of their work. So would you say it was 20% have experienced violence in the workplace? 30%? 50%? What if you were told it was 90%? 90% of social care workers in Ireland have experienced violence in the workplace -

Key findings from this research include;

• 90% of social care workers had experienced workplace violence
• 3 out of 4 social care workers had experienced physical assault
• 18% reported physical assault was a weekly or daily occurance in their workplace
• Over 60% of respondents stated that their employer sees violence as an acceptable part of their job

https://socialcareireland.ie/crisis-concern-complacency/

And you want to think I or anyone else should give a shyte about this one individual who is locked up in a cell 21 hours of a day having aged out of the youth system and they knew they had nowhere to put them, so they decided the best place for them was in prison for four years, and that was on top of the time they’d spent in detention already.

You REALLY don’t have to wait too long if you’re concerned about protecting women from dangerous thugs. Here’s a case from only a few days ago where the same Judge who sentenced the individual in question here to four years for making threats, sentenced another individual to TWO AND A HALF YEARS, for his actions in being part of a mob that turned up at a woman’s home and himself and three others entered the home where she was with small children and her partner. Fortunately the State appealed the leniency of the sentence and it is to be increased -

https://www.breakingnews.ie/amp/ireland/man-part-of-mob-who-threatened-to-kill-a-woman-to-have-sentenced-increased-1450506.html

Nah man, it just looks like you’re zeroing in on an outlier case to argue catastrophic nonsense while deliberately ignoring reality in order to make your point. In reality you really don’t have a point if you expect anyone should give a shìt about an individual who is locked up in isolation almost 24/7 vs the reality of the people who aren’t locked up, and when they are, they receive even more lenient sentences for similar offences. The individual in this case is locked up because there’s simply nowhere else to put them. Were it up to me I’d put this individual and Enoch Burke in a cell and leave them to their own devices, but the Irish Prison Service and the numerous organisations involved in the prison system can’t do that, nor can politicians do it just to satisfy a tiny mob of angry idiots who pick these sorts of niche cases to portray these idiots as a threat to wider society at large, when that’s simply not true, and not something that wider society should, or needs to be concerned about.

And you see no problem with this from a human rights perspective? Solitary confinement with no social interaction.

It sounds horrific. Is this even legal?

It's many things, but primarily idiotic like I already stated.

But you never answered the question and now seemed to be concerned with her human rights.

If you make up lies, you're going to be called a liar. It's that simple.

Men's prison.

What about the men's safety?

Also what difference does it make if she is held in solitary confinement for the entire juration of her sentence in a mens or womens prison?

There are false equivalences and there are false equivalences and then there is this.

”ye are in favour of rights for for trans, the vast majority of whom are law abiding citizens, but also for keeping a violent dangerous criminal in solitary for the safety of others when absolutely necessary”

How are they remotely comparable. But whatever logical leaps the size of Everest you need to take because they make you feel icky👍

Whether a mental person should get a gender cert.

You either don't know or don't care.

It comes across that you're so keen to be politically correct you can't form a view on it.

It’s accepting people choices about how to live their lives. There have always being people who have chosen to live their lives differently to the bulk of society. Recognising that is not a danger. It’s just accepting people for who they are.

This thread is all about hanging onto to the rare exceptions and trying to judge the entire issue based on those exceptions. A large part of this seems to rest on the belief that the trans issue is about sex. It’s not, it’s identity. Everyone has a number of things that define their identify. Particular values and affinities that define who they are. Now imagine being told that you were not allowed express what is one of the most important values that defines your identify. And what’s more be told that you need to in fact express the opposite.

Kindly point out where people are defending that person?

More like defending other people from being labelled as the same as this person through association. And that is what many on this thread are attempting to do. Deliberately conflating the rights all trans individuals and any attempts to support those rights with wanting to “defend a sex offender”. Or in other words, acting like c*nts.