Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Reading this article makes me very sad and also very angry. This impacts myself, my friends and family who have been priced out of their home towns. When many houses in my local regional town can now go for half a million €, you know something is seriously wrong.

I love and embrace multicultural Ireland but this government made an absolute balls of managing our population growth. It is spiralling out of control unmanaged at our borders. Hell we don't even have a flipping border at this stage.

I only look at the demographics of my local regional town and towns and how much they have changed so rapidly in the last 3-5 years alone. I often wonder where they live and work!

I worry so much about my children's future. Where will they afford to live.They are already in stupidly overcrowded classes and more and more so by the weeks and months. They are getting less and less attention at school. It's all a vicious circle.

Anyone who supports this stupid surge in population growth needs their heads examined.

Oh and another point...In the last week, my local regional hospital experienced their busiest day ever. It says it all!

Behind a pay wall but you get the gist.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/middle-and-low-earners-will-be-priced-out-of-living-in-regional-towns-by-2028-42393799.html

That's not really the point. When it became obvious the public was getting concerned about the state's lack of control on arrivals to this country there was a deliberate effort to introduce language by the NGOs in relation to refugees that wasn't used previously.

Like when the UK government renamed Windscale to Sellafield because it would be deemed less of a radioactive menace in the minds of the public.

It's a cynical use of language. Now all these people need 'protection' in the eyes of the public and they keep using that word over and over again.

No one argues some need 'protection' but that is an incredibly small number among what is mostly economic migrants and the public know this.

But a considerable number of people who claim asylum are 'not' refugees and are not fleeing war or famine or a natural disaster. As I mentioned further up, women who have escaped sex trafficking, gay people leaving countries where homosexuality is strictly forbidden, people at risk of being jailed for their religious or political beliefs, those escaping from authoritarian regimes etc are all entitled to claim asylum but could not be categorised as "refugees". You could argue that International Protection Applicant actually suits such people much better.

Don't they stand for unification, an end to british rule on the island and ML running the show?

Can't recall seeing any details of how a 32 county state would make up the shortfall of the billions in funding pumped into NI by the uk government, read it was about 15bn last year.

Maybe it will come from that magic money tree they must have somewhere.

A sign placed in Cherbourg train station France

Aren't they all really well educated?

English would make sense as its the most widely spoken language. And those coming from Ukraine might not speak Ukranian

It’s not that difficult. If your claim for protection is granted, then you are a refugee. Anyone still in the process is an asylum seeker (I.e someone seeking asylum - clue is in the title) or alternatively someone applying for International Protection, which also covers Subsidiary Protection, which is an EU concept, for someone who doesn’t reach the threshold of a refugee under the Geneva Convention but would still be found to have a legitimate fear of returning to their own country. The term IPA would cover both, and comes from the International Protection Act 2015, which introduced a single procedure for people applying for both forms of protection. Point is, the term Refugee only applies to someone whose claim has been accepted, and shouldn’t be confused with those who haven’t had a decision yet.

Oh, and by the way, fleeing persecution on the grounds of being homosexual, or political or religious beliefs would be text book examples of those who would be entitled to refugee status, once their claim is accepted as being credible.

Well....if you'd want to reach the vast majority of interested readers from Ukraine, you'd be far better advised to publish in Ukrainian, Russian or any number of slavic based languages. Perhaps even French if you wanted to keep the local populace in the loop. English would be well down that list.

Of course there could be other languages posted on other sheets, but suffice to say, this is the picture we have to work with.

We have posters here saying Irish people have to leave in their droves because of foreigners coming to Ireland. Do you think Irish people shouldn't be leaving too and should stay and try to improve Ireland?

Id say the French just want them anywhere but there, regardless of nationality.

Not what I was saying. However I am sure the French would like less. They have about the same applicant as ours per capita, with multiple former colonies and a much easier to get to location