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When's calving starting 2023

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Very pleased these calves are all coming so handy. The ornament with the ratchet is still sitting against the wall thank God




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    This has been a super easy year, even the maiden heifers dropped them like kittens. Hope I haven't jinxed it, 7 to go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Same here. All but 2 calved in a month long window. Only 3 calves in the shed. Jacked one big calf out in the field and one in the shed that came backwards. dint lay a hand On the rest.

    Was dreading this season because we had a new baby at the end of January and the calving being so compact but actually turned out to be a dream



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Long may that continue! Congratulations on the other new arrival! You must have very dry ground!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Not really. Very heavy ground for Meath ground but the weather was exceptional and the calves came before the weather turned.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Have you been able to leave them out? We had about 60 out and had to take all of them back in bar cows and calves that were in and out of the yard



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    I've my few that's calved (8 now) in a sacrificial paddock. I'd have heavy land. I'm giving hay out to them to keep them tipping over. Pure balls weather at the moment.

    As said above too, seems to be easy calving this year too with nearly all calve 40-50kg range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,937 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Have a few out with their calves. Calves can come in and lie in straw shed and there's meal there too. Cows getting a bale of silage and calves are happy out. Had a lad here the other day and he couldn't get over how simple aset up it is. Have a loose chain on double gates from field that calves walk in and out through.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Left them out. Benefit of good high hedges. Beef cattle are still in the shed



  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭golodge


    Here it's the opposite. Most calves on the bigger side. An average is reaching 50kg, some around 60 or heavier. It doesn't seem to change soon, as some cows are already past their due dates and still seem to have some time left.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,368 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    We haven't let the cows with young calves out yet due to the incessant heavy rain that we've got in the last week or so. The shed they are in we set up for cow&calves and they would normally have direct access to two fields depending on which way we swing the gates. The back pen behind the large timber frame is where the feed barrier and water trough are located. We find it works well and helps to keep the bedding dry. There are nine cows and ten calves (set of twins - blue roan heifer and red bull in the front of the picture) in it at the moment.

    The first of the heifers calved yesterday morning (a BBx that I bought in and reared as a calf) we gave her a bit of help with the jack but it wasn't a hard pull. I was slightly worried because this year the calves from the stock bull are coming a lot bigger outta the same cows than last year.




  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Itryhard


    Lovely stock



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    I’ll second that they are lovely calves. Are they all SH? You have plenty of feeding there anyhow. I paid another €2k this morning for bales but there has been great drying so I hope we can get stock back out maybe Tuesday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    Is it possible to have a Lm bull calve at 278 days? Or was there a mix up a long the way? No twin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,300 ✭✭✭tanko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭bogman_bass




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Yep. Had an AI zag to first timer last year at 277 or 278. Mind you she's done similar to my own limousine stock bull this year, Calved around 7 weeks earlier than she calved last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,368 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Yes they are all by the SH bull, the cows are SHx, HEx and LMx.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    No a bull calf to Loyal actually which was nice. Calved herself. Loyal doesn’t seem to carry too long either I suppose. She had 2 SA heifers previously. I was getting hints of a Saler off him again. Reddish in colour. have another couple who were AI’d around the same time and nothing happening with them yet. Could be down to the cow too.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    What about the SH do you like? They’re lovely cattle but do they leave more behind them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,300 ✭✭✭tanko


    Forecast not looking good for second half of next week at the moment.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    That’s not good news. I’ll have to keep an eye on it. Could change!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,368 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    The few sucklers are here for me as aside to whatever else goes on. We feed/finish cow & heifers and I was tired of not having any permanent stock about the place. This is only the bulls full second crop of calves so its early days yet. I sold some weanling heifers last year privately and got really good money for roan ones. Bulls are more difficult to sell judging by what I see in the marts but we were always going to keep them to finish anyway. The one thing about shorthorns is that they are very easy to manage/maintain and most importantly for me they are very docile and I like the look of them. We also buy and rear calves and sell off milk or as weanlings. And deal in hay and straw.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Think I might get out of the sucklers myself this year, down to the last 3 cows to calve now. I think the farm is just too disjointed for AI and good bulls are getting expensive. The 2 young lads (14) want to be involved in everything now and I think I'd feel better with them around lighter stock.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    SH are lovely cattle to work with, good milkers, beef handy enough, quite to work with and then there is a factory bonus on them too, I actually find them better than AAx as they carry heavier weights. The one thing I notice about the cows I have is I think they are more spoilt than other cows, they tend to bawl more than other cows, put they are usually placid at calving which is a good advantage.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Aye we have only one and she is very quiet second calver. She had an all red heifer calf this year and there’s a wee bit of black round the mouth you;’d know she wasnt all lim. I was disappointed not getting a wee bit of roan. For bawling I never knew anything like the blue cattle they never quit. I’d put up with it just about ok but my father would sell one over bawling without a second thought. At first I was mad at him, now it amuses me!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,368 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Agree with you about the cows been vocal. The majority of ours will stand at the feed barrier moaning at you looking for better silage. The closer they are to purebred the more difficult I find to keep condition off them in Winter. In autumn/winter they come in pig fat and if they get a sniff of good silage they tend to stay too fat for calving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Have a cow here now put out the waterbag this morning. Hadn't really sprung down fully to calve and her bones hadn't dropped either. Not acting sick to calf. Handled her in the middle of the day, and her cervix was just about open enough to get my hand through. Got a shot of oxytocin from the vet to see if it would help things along a bit aswell and she seems to be a bit more restless and sick in herself after getting it. Wonder how long I can leave her before the calf is at risk. I think myself she'll open but could be another 4 or 5 hours. Must have got a puck around the feeder or something, would have thought there was the most of a week left in her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,937 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Could be a twist or something, had one similar a few months ago. Vet untwisted her and said to leave her to open up for an hour. I jacked the calf out then, was ok



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    ,Slip on a binder twine on the crubs when you handle her nest ,tricky the way you just slip them on when tight ,make a similar type knor as calving jack rope .put a strong pull on these maybe even just one at the time and then just slip calving jack rope on when you get a bit more room .Dont panic and you will get there ,pull one leg first and push back when calving rope is on and then 2nd leg .Hope you comprehend what I am on about



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    No I've handled plenty with twists and she definitely doesn't have one. There's no hope of pulling him the way she is at the moment anyway, I wouldn't even attempt it. You wouldn't have a calf or a cow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,959 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    i would have thought a twisted uterus too. Will the oxytocin induce her? It drives me mad seeing heavy in-calf cows pucking each other around the feeder.



  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Itryhard


    I had one like that a couple of months ago. Making no progress all day. Gave her calcium and she opened a bit. I knew calf was dead from first handle. Gave her time and she opened then I slowly jacked the calf about 16 hours after first noticed her sick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Oxytocin and calcium can trigger contractions Doesn’t always work tho



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Ended up doing a section at 12 o clock, big charolais bull calf alive, didn't want to risk leaving her any longer. Definitely 100% wasn't a twist, I came across 3 of them last year alone and would come across one most years between mine or a neighbours, it's easy tell once you stick a hand in. Her cervix just wasn't opening for some reason. She definitely started to act a bit sicker about a half hour after giving her the oxytocin but never went about trying to do much either. Weird one though, always something new with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    I had one like that that calved a live calf a full week later



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    @Limestone Cowboy o every day is a school day with livestock. When I would have something like that my vet usually says its a in a million occurrence, I do remind him I am far from a million cows but I cant seem to get the the numbers in the lotto as handy.

    Still you had a good out come with a live calf, in them cases something I do think the cows know the calf is to big for her so she does nothing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Bad farmer category for me. Seen her this morning @ 8 and thought I ll move her a lunch time as she was on 284 days to LM4217. Went into the shed at 1pm and she was just after landing her. Lovely hardy heifer.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,937 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    A nice priestown Jupiter calf born here today , we bred ptj over 20 years ago, so nice to have his breeding line back. A heifer calf she was up and sucking when we checked them at lunchtime. Dam calved in May last year




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,937 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    First backwards calf of the year there. Very tight with Jack. All ok



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Don't know what I'd do without the drone 🙈




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    That’s impressive there was me thinking Id reached the pinnacle with the cameras in the pens. Was she outwintered. We spent money on diggers and dozers takin out oul rocks and I’m not sure when it’ll ever pay us back. They were always shocking useful to outwinter a few and the health of them was incredible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,368 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    @Limestone Cowboy - the last pic with the white cow and redish calf is class. That cow sure knew where to go for shelter to calve.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Pleased to say this girl and the camera calved this boy out this morning. I checked her at 5.30 nothing and at 8 he was walking about



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭squinn2912


    Another one fired out there now. I’d got up and phoned the oul fella but she had her job done then. Tea and back to bed for ab hour




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭jfh


    That's fantastic limestone, must be a big time saver for you, what kinda drone is it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    A heifer calved here yesterday during the day, but without assistance thankfully.

    I only copped she was in calf a little over month ago and have been watching her closely since, she's a good big heifer but very very young @ 419 days old (13 months). All is well with her and the calf, the only issue is with trying to register the calf the software is telling me she is too young to have calved (Damn computers 😁)

    She must have been under 5 months old when she was served, the bull and any cows with male calves were separated from those with females last June. Her birthdate is accurate too, all calves here are tagged / registered as they hit the ground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,544 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    It's handy have it alright. It's a dji mavic pro. Have it 4 years now, never missed a beat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    What breed is she? Didn't know they could go in calf that young. I'd have bull calves with heifers till they are hitting 8-9months



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    AA50 HE25 HO25

    I'd say she's exceptionally young but I'd never risk 8-9 months with mine either or I'd definitely have a few more, I've noticed some of her siblings in heat around 6 months.



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