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Biking Blitz 2022

  • 20-01-2022 11:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭


    Who is racing?

    I'm hoping to do ballinstoe, ticknock and maybe one more if I'm lucky. really looking forward to it.. putting in some traoning now and hope I can better my previous efforts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭calistro


    First time entering it, looking forward to it but not really sure what to expect. Any insights appreciated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,002 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Just have fun, that's the purpose of the Blitz...


    For many people it will be their first experience of being in a large MTB event with so many others, main thing is to have a laugh, be polite..


    There's going to be some serious men/women on superlight expensive bikes, shaven legs and lycra.. you will see them gather at the top of the start line... forget them and enjoy your day...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Gerry


    Agreed. do it at your own pace. take it easy until you are warmed up. You will notice people passing you but dont worry about them. Try to go steady conserve energy where you can and if you are feeling ok towards the most likely you'll catch and pass a few folks.

    Just getting my bike ready here, looking forward to it. Have done 2 training spins up there but still not like the torture of race day. Will be trying to pace myself on first lap and have enough left for a quicker second lap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Well, how did the race go for you? You got away with the worst of the weather anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Gerry


    Didn't make it, got the covid. Gutted.. but onwards etc.. Im getting through it and biking.ie moved my entry to the ticknock blitz.

    How did rest of ye get on?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Hi guys,

    Thinking of doing the Biking Blitz next week but unsure of what CI licence I need. Would the 50e one do?

    It includes 'Leisure events'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭PJ_RS1800



    Limited Competition license required.

    Leisure license only covers Sportives and Leisure events etc.

    Whilst the Blitz events are relaxed and beginner friendly, they are still competitive races, hence the requirement for a Competition license.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭PJ_RS1800


    See there's the option to buy a one day license at €20 for the Blitz too which may be an option for you if you don't plan on doing any further racing....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Big numbers entered yesterday,and the weather was mildish for time of year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 694 ✭✭✭Whatwicklow


    Very strange racing a ballinastoe blitz without sideways rain a howling gale and bitter cold... It could even be described as pleasant yesterday 😊



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Sunday was my first ever Blitz and I really didn't know what to expect heading up there. It was a lot more competitive than the advertising would have suggested anyway. Only my second time in Ballinastoe, and have to say I enjoyed the trails and my day, even if I was well off the pace (tis more than I was doing 12 months ago, so I'll look at the positives). Expressway and Holts in particular were good fun, and surprisingly long. For early February the weather was grand, and wasn't very wild on the exposed hillside thankfully.

    Bring on round 2 in Ballyhoura.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    I suppose if a rider pays €30 to ride around a normally free trail center while zip-tieing a race number to their bars it tends to bring out the competition in them.Last Sunday will better prepare you for Rd 2 now,the head will be in racemode from the starters whistle,best of luck.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Damn it, only looked at the CI site and it had it starting on the 26th, didn't realise I had missed it. Sounds like it went well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Gerry


    Yeah I'm a bit gutted to miss it myself. realistically ill make the ticknock round



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Yeah, it likely won't make me any more competitive, but I'll be better prepared and know what to expect which should make it a more enjoyable experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    I like the 35km course at RD 2 Ballyhoura as it's just the 1 loop,out and back.I find doing the same loop/lap a few time's mentally harder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    I suppose it depends on whether you're familiar with a place or not. I'd only been to Ballinastoe once before, back in 2019 for the charity cycle, so I felt much more comfortable on the second lap as I'd a better idea what to expect.

    What does have me confused though is the Round in Derroura. In most other rounds the E-Bike and Expert have the same course, or amount of laps, but in Derroura its only 1 16km lap for the E-Bike while Expert are doing 2. It's a bit of a Trek for only 1 short lap when every other round is 25km plus. Probably still go, but it is strange to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Gerry


    35km for 1 lap is pretty cool, and I get the comment about multiple laps mentally. on the other hand, very tough to pace yourself over 1 lap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Anyone entered for Rd 2 this Sunday?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Yup, will be there in the E-Bike category. Nice handy 35km White Loop 😯



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  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Bot1


    Great day out!

    Weather was perfect if a little chilly.

    Any results available yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Twas wild part way down the green descent where the area is open, but other than that couldn't really have asked for much better weather at the end of February 🙂



  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Bot1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Gerry


    Anyone for ticknock on Sunday? I don't really have the fitness but I need to get out there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Couldn't make Ticknock due to work. Wasn't worth taking 2 days off just to come towards the back of the pack.

    My fitness isn't where I want it either, but I was glad I did the first 3 rounds, and I'll do the last 3 too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Gerry


    I left it too late last night to enter. Emailed them but no response. Not my first last minute shmozzle.. bit disappointed as I'm doubting its sold out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    I don't think there's any limit imposed on entries, so highly unlikely to have been sold out. Not that it helps you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Im not surprised they never got back to you.They have'nt updated the Blitz facebook page since last year.No effort seems to be put into promoting the Blitz this year.While the results are published very quickly,there's no picture's of the podium winners,or even the kiddies race's to get a buzz going.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Gerry


    yeah, I will need to look at other xc race series. I had in the past used the blitz as a way to kick start the year but due to some injuries and scheduling conflicts had not been able to make earlier races, or justify the 140 for lci and club renewal fees.

    They did come back to me late on Saturday after I pinged them on the "insta" as well saying they could not add an entry, but if they wanted to, they could have. It's a shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,002 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    The Blitz in its current format has been running for around 10 years now, it was setup to promote the use of the (at the time new) Coillte trails and the bike hire business attached to it so they probably don't think it's worth a massive marketing drive to promote this long standing event..

    There's a few freelance photographers who take snaps at each of the events, i'm pretty sure they're linked on one of the various related biking blitz social media accounts..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Yeah, the effort put into promoting the series has been seriously slack. Instagram seems to be the only place they post updates, and even at that they fail to make you aware of changes prior to events. Just as an example, Derroura was originally advertised as 1 lap for ebike, the day before the event this was changed to 2 on the website but not mentioned anywhere. Same for Ticknock just gone - originally advertised as 2 laps, just prior to the event it was changed to 3. Again no notification. Now don't get me wrong, in both cases I think it was the right move as it keeps the average distance similar for most of the rounds at a little over 30km, but I had been hesitant to do Derroura as I thought it was a lot of effort and expense for a single 16km loop - if I'd known in advance it was 2 laps and 32km there would have been no hesitation in entering.

    As for photos, again I'm only seeing stuff appear on Instagram. One guy was at the first 3 rounds and will be at the last 3 too if you're looking for images - https://gallery.eightynine.media/?fbclid=PAAaaAfLxfkzkHidf6-Zex5IY7r0AomhxWvXTg3-qWcEh3H-jx9POdOp3VaaU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭JimmiesRustled




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Someone from Biking.ie must be reading Boards,as I noticed they've put up the 1st post on the Biking Blitz Facebook page this year on Tuesday!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Is there a race calendar I can import into my phone to avoid races around Ticknock/Ballinastoe? Just want to avoid any weekends something is on and make sure I don't waste a journey.

    It's funny it wasn't until Wednesday that I noticed the small sign at the upper car park gate at Ticknock saying the race was on. Didn't see it last week.

    Post edited by DaveyDave on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    @ DaveyDave,youre safe enough for the rest of the year,the remaining Biking Blitz's are'nt in Ticknock.And the NPS race's will be held on proper course's and none are anywhere near a trail center.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Gerry


    yeah was looking at the xc nps schedule

    http://irishxcnps.ie/?page_id=1918



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Anyone doing it this year, I see the dates and locations are up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Not at €30 a pop I'm not!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭prunudo


    As events go thats pretty reasonable. How much is your bike, yet you won't pay 30 euro to enter a marshalled and timed event.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Cycling, particularly the road side, has always shot itself in the foot in some ways with cheap entry, volunteer food from club members and free marshals. It's great in that it is includive but it is a huge strain on organisers. Other sports with similar level events could be €100+ for the event. This said, I would have thought the Coillte involvement would ahve brought the price down, and maybe it has significantly. I'll pay it anyway and see how it goes. It is a pity that Cycling doesn't have a hardship fund for members to apply for for entries as I don't think if we start charging what we should be charging that it should exclude anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Its a rip off,the Coillte trails are already there,so no need for a team of volunteer's to give up their free time to build a course,these Coillte trails are also free to ride 364 days a year.A NPS race is on a course that the hosting club built using their members free time,sometimes on private land that you dont ever get to ride.I'd also say that the Blitz is'nt nearly as important to win,truth be told it's early season Micky Mouse racing,yet its cheaper to enter a NPS race than the Blitz.We're nearly finished a very packed and competative Cyclo Cross season,great racing on venue's all across the land,on course's were the hosting club members have built course's over a few weeks leading up to their event,some on private estate's that we cant normally ride,and was it €30 to race any of these? Nope it was'nt,plus the CX was proper league racing,whether it was the National Series or the Provence's League,or even McCrystal's excellent league on their own track.Thats why the Blitz is a rip off in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭prunudo


    I'm not in the loop for cx racing, what price are the entries for the races you normally take part in? I can only compare against othe mtb races I've taking part in, and €30 seemed reasonable imo. Enduro races can be more than double that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,386 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Its €20 to race a National Series Cycle Cross race which is 2/3's the price of the Blitz,hell to enter the Cycle Cross National Championship's (the biggest,most prestigious race of the year where National jerseys will be won) is the same entry price as the Micky Mouse Blitz!! Its only €9 per round in McCrystal's excellent weekly league and a NPS XC entry is €25.How can the blitz be more expensive to enter than the NPS?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,002 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Don't forget, the Blitz is run by a private company and they have costs to cover as they pay Marshall's/provide lunches... and of course try and make a living out of it for the owners...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭PJ_RS1800


    Blitz is also Chip timed whereas the NPS is not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Gerry


    yup, nobody forcing you to enter the blitz. The point that its mickey mouse racing isn't really valid, no one including the organizers is pretending that its the national champs. It is a good way for people to dip their toes into racing. if you have any fitness at all youll have people to race against on the say.

    For anyone else its a good early year target and a bit of training and craic.

    But versus cx, sorry its not really a fair comparison either. cx tends to be completely dominated by fitness, to an even greater extent than xc. theres little clawback for someone who is better on the off road or tricky parts than the pure engines. so to be honest for me, not as much fun. And I have done quite a few cx races.

    I've signed up for ticknock blitz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,174 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    Did 4 rounds last year, hope to go one better this year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    How many people enter these races? I imagine you don't have the economy of scale here when it comes to funding. The women's mini marathon is also €30 and have Gardai doing road closures for that price but they have 20,000 entries and big sponsors. Judging from the marketing campaign they obviously have money.

    There's always going to be marshalling and admin costs involved. Sure the Hell & Back is something mental like €70 to enter and that's just one 10k.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,663 ✭✭✭prunudo


    And they also have (or had) a big name sponsor with 2fm.

    But also, funny thing is with Hell and back. In the early days it was also timed but then there was too much queuing at the features. So they scrapped that and went with the 'you conquered the course' pr crap. Seems to been a succuss for them though so, what would I know 🙂



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