Is it time to join Nato

Well what's the alternative the united states of the Kremlin or Beijing.

Our neutrality means feck all it's not some magic shield that will protect us if the world goes tits up ,

Don't lads sure won't the British or Americans come to save us ,

The British military is in a bad way and would struggle to defend themselves let alone us or anyone else,in a recent study on the invasion of Taiwan whenever china decides to make a move the US would lose a large amount of the military in a week including aircraft carriers and several hundred aircraft,

So yeah place your bets on how long we would last before anyone else gets saved from any foreign aggression,

We're not ukraine,if Ukrainans didn't stand up when they did the war currently in Ukraine would have been the war in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova pick your destination.

Neutrality is a skirt for cowards to hide behind when they expect others to die for them

Malta.

Montenegro.

Slovenia.

I keep on having to tell you, we're an EU/csdp member.

Thats a nuclear armed group, with way more conventional, diplomatic, and financial power than Rus.

And we have an opt out to csdp too.

We're in a kind of plasma flux state between neutral and a future EU military coalition. Its the best of both worlds, and we'd do well not to fvck it up with any changes.

The US has foreign territory in the Pacific where Japan wanted to invade. It was preemptive attack on the US navy as japan thought they would go to war with them should they start going shopping in the Pacific. Completely no relevance to Ireland.

They done and are doing a lot for ukraine because if Ukraine falls other countries will follow ,

If we're attacked by anyone expect a strongly worded speech at the UN rapidly followed by Statements of well if only they had invested in the defense of their own country then they wouldn't be in this mess,

Followed by Ireland should sit down and negotiate a settlement,

Haven't mentioned Russia ,but hey keep bringing it up .

And less 10,000 poorly payed and equipped soldiers with zero heavy artillery, armor, aircraft or radars,a naval service which can't provide crews the handful of vessels we actually have,and you think you can find another 500,000 men capable of fighting a war ,a few days of snow and the country comes to a total stand still, followed by a sudden lack of food in shops and super markets ,how many days to you think we would last in an actual war ,

I'm learning how to converse here without tripping any things that go off.

I see Norway, Sweden and Denmark have now combined their airforces into one united airforce, why despite two of the three being NATO members and the third on their way to membership,

Not that we could do something similar being we have No airforce or primary radar and zero air defenses,and zero naval defenses

The most likely invader is still the UK (very unlikely at present but who knows). Russia is even more unlikely but in certain circumstances they could land and seize certain assets of use to them (perhaps for a short time) in a war. We should have a certain capability to deter and make such events very costly to any aggressor.

28 /30 military intelligence gathering commands , combined with various federal laws enforcement agencies working together,are a powerful intelligence community,

We are on our own, we can't detect aircraft, Naval vessels, ships or boats ,let alone detect and deter any kind of sabotage or attack on vital infrastructure.