Trans Woman School shooting TN

2 assault rifles and a hand gun.

Maybe they should focus on the actual common dominator in all these shootings.

Just a thought.

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Shootings such as this have become so normalised in the US that anything a bit different about a case is going to be clung onto and deemed newsworthy.

Otherwise it's just more of the same and people have become jaded and don't really seem to give it much notice.

Incredibly hard when there are more guns than people in your country, and part of the founding of the state was the right to bear arms. Also, politicians taking bribes donations from incredibly well funded gun lobbyist groups means that any attempt to ban guns on a national level always fails.

If any US president was to ever write an executive order banning them, they'd be literally writing their own death sentence, and there would be huge civil unrest, and violence.

@looksee 'So, on the topic, can anyone clarify how a child assigned female at birth and now identifying (in this case, was identifying) as a female adult can be transgender?'

NBC News said officials believe she "identifies" as transgender.

The common denominator in all of them is the person or people who choose to commit murder. Firearms don’t turn up at a school or office or shopping mall of their own volition. They are carried there by people who are of a mind to use them to commit murder.

I know where you’re coming from, but I don’t have an issue with guns, the issues surrounding guns and mass shootings and even glorifying mass shooters, are with people who shouldn’t have access to a butter knife, let alone a firearm.

There will be no measures to prevent easy access to firearms in the US, it’s far more politically inconvenient than it’s worth, but it’s easy to use firearms as a scapegoat rather than address the multitude of underlying factors which culminate in some loose end going off the deep end and imagining they are justified in taking the life of another person.

Well the title is wrong. Regardless of where you stand on this 'debate' the shooter was either a trans Man, or a woman.

Calling them a Trans Woman seems to be deliberately choosing the language that pisses off the maximum number of people

I am no wiser. If she identifies as transgender, transgender from what? She was already biologically female from birth, unless she was mis-gendered at birth? If evidence of her male-ness was discovered or became evident as she grew up, but she wished to continue to be female then I can see how she might need medical intervention to clarify her sex, but her gender had been recognised as female since birth and she continued to consider herself female, how would that result in her being transgender?

Am I misunderstanding the whole thing, I genuinely am interested to understand.

None of this gives her the right to go shooting people of course and it is a prime example of how the availability of guns is the main issue in this situation.

'Using firearms as scapegoat' - I've heard it all now.

Yes, the old silly NRA saying 'Guns don't kill people, people kill people' is technically correct, however you do have to acknowledge the sheer ease guns permit people to kill people is a bit of an issue?

You can certainly go into a school with a knife and start stabbing people, could even do it in Ireland - you definitely won't have the same kill rate however as you would with a semi auto rifle with a bag of nice big full magazines.

mental health in the US is clearly on the decline, social media , how they are educated/parented. I doubt there is much appetite for tackling it though as there is too much money involved, expect more would be the prognosis

The he/she part is the only noteworthy thing about this shooting.

American culture sees no wrong in school shootings and as a perfectly acceptable occurence.

Title of thread should read Trans MAN.

Yes, I just read the statement in post 3 issued by the 'Trans Resistance Network' which appears, contrary to its name, to be a trans support group, and they refer to the shooter as he - also known as Aiden.

not quite right, if was a toothless redneck that could be deemed to be a white supremist, this thread would be the motherload

Some clarity needed. Was this person a female at birth who then later styled/ reassigned herself as a man?

Did her parent(s) look at the baby when born and say 'we have a new lovely daughter'?

Did the police shoot dead a man or a woman? Or a woman styled/ reassigned as a man?

Should be easy enough to get these basic facts?

over 100 mass shootings including 2 at schools this year alone in the US. how many others had their own thread?