Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I'd say it's more to do with the judges letting scrotes with 1500 convictions off with suspended sentences that is more disheartening that a few harsh words. Although the way things are going now with the "words are violence" crowd, it can't be long before we've a Garda off with hurt feelings.

The notions floating around in favour of immigration are hard to credit. A persistent ignorance.

Transcribe it to a hospital setting.

You roll into accident an emergency with a gunshot in the left leg. Doctor shoots you in the right leg too "you already have a problem what's the big deal?". That's the idiocy of the "but Irish people break the law too".

There's is a constant lack of critical thought around capacity. "There's plenty of space because Ireland centuries ago had a bigger population". Yes in abject poverty, because it didn't have capacity. If your rule of thumb on societal infrastructure is based off a wildly inapplicable notion hundreds of years ago, then you need to go back to primary school.

"If we built more homes, we could house the overpopulated country". Well Jesus, there's critical thought for you. "I don't have enough money, but If I had more money I'd have more money, therefore I can continue spending money I don't have". Brilliant reasoning, brilliant. Nobel prizes in the post.

"But the Irish won't do these jobs". Yes, because the pay does not match its environment and affords only a decreased quality of life. Can only add more migrants to do those jobs because they're willing to put up with worse quality of life, which in turn decreases quality of life of the environment, which means only those ready to accept lower quality will do the Jobs, which means....you get the point. It's an ever circling drain on everyone. An "economy" for hollow heads.

"But the hospital staff", yes the poorer replacements willing to work for less with worse conditions while the Irish students are leaving because of the broken economy that cycle brings. Immigration clearly and evidently does not improve the healthcare system. Look at it. You get what you pay for, and we are paying for it.

Not restricted to manual labour, there is also the absurd notion of bigger companies setting up here to avoid tax, while bringing sometimes the majority of their workforce from abroad. Pointless. If all the supposed money these tax dodgers bring to the country was of benefit, we wouldn't have the place in such a state. But what it does do, evidently, is introduce more and more extra people to add yet more infrastructural pressure into a breaking society. The proof is in the pudding.

"We need this imported population to pay for pensions". And yet, the more that arrive, the worse the pension situation becomes. Funny, that.

Lots more fallacies aside.

It is clear as day that we have a buddy system of governments that have only one intent: artificially inflate the population to sustain a practically useless economy.

Everything else is being burned to keep this economic fallacy alive. Culture and identity, housing, education, healthcare, social mobility, family creation, sustainability, the environment. The future, basically.

We have been sold a pigs ear. Not a single effing element of it adds up to anything positive. We need an economy that suits the Irish people, and not other people to sustain an economy of no use to anyone.

Just 9% of the population of this country has been imported withing just 5 years. Does it feel like it makes anything better?

An actionable vote on mass immigration must be demanded because it is an existential threat now.

Yeah I think we all no the answer to that one, I’m guessing the latter

It's in a proper state, and it's hardly insider knowledge that it's projected to get worse.

BUT THE ECONOMY!

Yes, the economic furnace that's burning society to sustain itself, of no practical benefit, and 100% reliant on importing extra people, is doing fine. It'll go pop on a Tuesday while we're out at lunch, such is its resilience.

One of the more pertinent questions of this country's unasked for, foisted imported population, is housing.

Keeping it simple, there were about 90k NET migrants into the country last year, with a wobbly projection of about the same this year. Let's stop there.

180k net migrants, into a country that can maybe build 60k homes, with an existing housing crisis, in two years.

Is anyone able to wake up out of their stupor and ask where this is headed?

Are people content to watch the government's build appx 1/3 of the housing necessary for migrants, while the people of Ireland themselves wait? And wait until ...when, exactly?

Are we waiting for the likes of favela's and homeless "towns"? And if you are happy to wait for that, what are you going to do then?

What's the plan?

Who is this economy for? How does it help?

Hello?