Trans Woman School shooting TN

Hardly indicates this is "where America is now" it sure is where Twitter is though it appears.

'Yeah kids are slaughtered but think of the poor cops being labeled transphobic, the worst thing imaginable to them'

How much do you guarantee the average person knows what those ingredients even are? I don't even know what those ingredients are and I'm a friggin mechanical engineer. I could tell you what's in thermite but not a pipe bomb. And I certainly don't have anything in the house that would make an effective casing, gods forbid.

All conjecture. You surely can indeed imagine a 4 year old building a rocket ship off of google but I still have yet to see a 6 year old attempt to kill their teacher with a pipe bomb or sarin gas, as was previously floated as a bizarre alternative in the case of guns being banned or regulated effectively. I have however seen a 6 year old shoot their teacher. I've even seen reports of 2 year olds shooting their own heads off with found guns - clearly the problem is guns, and the prolific availability of guns, it's not 6 year olds being radicalized politically by social media or gender affirming care. 6 year olds aren't writing out manifestos against the deep state or the great replacement, thusly they aren't scouring the internet for ways to cause death and destruction or looking for the anarchists cookbook. But they see daddy has a gun culture obsession. They see guns all the time too in the culture. We make memes out of it. We often make shooting someone a punchline.

And any semblance of societal moral leadership on this, on keeping these thoughts and ideas away from children flew well out the window a long time ago.

Andy Ogles imaged here in his family's 2021 Christmas Photo (R-TN) had nothing but Thoughts and Prayers TM for this latest atrocity - he's just "heartbroken" everyone, so lay off him enriching the guns for kids culture.

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As for 28 year olds and their access to guns the same story applies: they're available readily, ingrained deeply in the culture, and the barrier to entry is alarmingly low. If you do grow into an extremist, radicalized 28 year old, there's a product for that, buy 3 for a discount, and you can skirt a lot of paperwork in the right cases.

As is discussing a topic being referred to as exploitment.

It takes an awfully skewed reading of that post to infer any sympathy or defense of the shooter. They're very clearly discussing the trans community, knowing that this will lead to an increase in hate crimes, - especially against people who were not party to the atrocity.

The "REAL victim here" is reading comprehension.

POTUS Biden responds to press gaggle about this and gets shouted down in the middle of answering.

To wit, he's been in full contact with officials, (and in touch in Mississippi, which had devastating tornadoes), has already exercised much all of his executive authority on the gun agenda already, and it's left up to Congress to get the thumb out.

Biden states most americans believe it's "bizarre" etc. to own an assault weapon - polling shows he is mostly right, most americans believe in general that firearms need to be harder to acquire, especially for the mentally dangerous. But ABC/WApo polling also shows that Americans don't overwhelmingly support a Ban on assault type weapons. The Morning Consult/Politico poll indicated however 2/3rs of Americans support raising the age to buy those assault weapons to 21 at least. It wouldn't have helped here though. As such, I don't see anything moving an iota on this. More kids to be shot cold dead this year and more cops forced to face up with criminals with assault weapons and more thoughts and prayers TM to be issued by the usual corners. And RIP tm - as if any kid shot up at a school in particular, has ever rested in peace - what have they been able to rest in peace about? We still let it happen and will let it happen tomorrow or the day after that.

From the Morning Consult Poll, Americans overwhelmingly support the ability of a mental health provider, not your neighbor or your dog, to raise these red flags to law enforcement and for appropriate legal action to be taken thereon.

Well, therein is part of the problem isn't it. They already currently live under chilling fear of litigation (QED: this person was not reported!). Psychologists already operate under the guise that patient confidentiality is not finite, and does not extend to where they believe you intend to harm yourself - or others (and generally fully explained to informed patient at the head of mental treatment).

We don't have a proper reporting system for these cases to police enforcement, and I am unsurprised the Nashville police were not informed, given what the police chief just said, their hands are bound, and what can they do but call up the PD and just have them say 'thanks but nothing we can do' 'or thanks we'll look into it,' give the person a visit and do nothing legally forcible. Just as in so many other cases in the US where mass shooters it turned out not only were in and out of mental care but even in those circumstances, alerted to law enforcement by professionals, friends, and family who were again handtied from taking any legal action, under the legal climate of "shall not be infringed." The Stoneman Douglas shooter is an example case. The mental care professionals already work under the ethics guideline that you report dangerous people, but the system does not support them in that. Sadly all their provider would have done by reporting it to NPD would be to have them have to report to the suspect/patient that a report against them was made and they will be increasingly distrustful of their health provider, only. If we actually have the gumption to pass a red flag reform though the provider knows they can report a patient and the appropriate action will be taken, the intervention will actually occur, the confidence in that action goes up, and reporting rates go up (in theory).

By writing legislation that clears the pathway for red flag issuance by licensed providers you also imaginably, at the same time, write that law with and out of respect to alll the various other doctor-patient law in the world, HIPAA etc. so providers aren't left guessing, for example, whether reporting their patient for taking actions to plan out shooting up a school is something they can legally report, and isn't a violation of their patient's privacy or constitutional or statutory rights.

Now I mentioned FL/Stoneman: to be a deferential, Florida does have the Baker Act and, I've seen a family member have to be found under the act, and it wasn't fun for them but it was a relief for us and law enforcement, they were a danger to themselves, but there wasn't any guns involved. But this interns the person, not any weapons, and only for a period of hours or days, and 'masking' your way through a basic mental competency test gets you out of it. So say this patient got Baker Acted in Nashville eg. - they'd just have been out again by Friday and the guns would still be fully and legally in their possession. It's not nothing for preventing a mass shooting, but it's also not particularly robust, my family member was released, quickly stopped masking, had an incident with police in the middle of the street and was right back in - dunno how you avoid that fully, but glad this wasn't a gun related incident in their case at all.

No there are easily 5 or more gun/pawn stores within 15 minutes drive of me, 1 of which I pass almost every time I am out of home, and I am less than 15 minutes from a public sub-metropolitan University. I mean - there's a gun range right down the road from the university (and the owner is a big Punisher fan according to their google adspace but I digress).

They're just - **** everwhere in the south, and I have no reason to think there aren't as many (or more) guns and availability in Tennessee just over the mountains here. Nashville is just a couple hours away.

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