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Nissan Leaf

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭creedp


    Just following up on this issue. Still waiting on dealer to come back but I have been keeping an eye on Leafspy and have noticed the 'weak cells' message on a few occasions now, especially when soc is low after a longer trip. See attached one example below. I've also noticed a DTC P31B8 CAN error which Im unclear if related to the weak cells or something completely different. The car drives perfectly except for the reduced range and erratic % battery remaining level, especially when level drops below 50%.




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    I seem to be having the exact issue as yourself. Clearly a problem with the battery. It is dropping rapidly. I'm on 9 bars now and they won't touch the car until 8 bars and are telling me the battery in their eyes is perfectly fine.


    87,000km, SOH 69.92%.


    I'm just waiting for that 8th bar to hit and I will start the warranty process. In saying that the warranty states they only have to return it to 9 bars as far as I know. To me that means they can do the bare minimum to bring it back to 9 bars and wash their hands with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭creedp


    Will be interesting to see how they will deal with your warranty claim. At least you're well within the 160k km warranty so no basis for Nissan fobbing you off. Unfortunately Im now at 162k km but brought this problem to the dealers attention before I hit the 160k km milestone. However, Im not confident of getting any joy from Nissan in my case.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭sh81722


    @creedp : Does the car trigger any faults on the dashboard with the weak sells? That should be enough for Nissan to honour the warranty. I think the key here is if the faults happened before you hit the 160k mark.

    @Jofspring : Do you have the latest HV_BATTERY upgrade as discussed a few pages back? While model year is the car as they have US/Japanese batteries with different firmware.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,726 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Can anyone help this woman fix her leaf. She is asking about sourcing a pdm but she probably needs someone to identify the correct part number and know how to replace it. Car cant slow charge but can fast charge. There is also the risk the dealer is wrong and it could be another charger related fault.

    I think she may need on site support. She has spike on the phone to specialists who have said she needs to source her own pdm...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭creedp


    No faults triggered on dash. Other than the erratic reduction of the battery remaining % the only indication of a problem is the weak cells notice on leafspy



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    I was told I do have the latest firmware but to be honest I'm not sure. I asked about the one suggested a few pages back but Nissan told me everything is up to date and there are no outstanding issues, recalls or campaigns for my car.


    When I flagged the rapid decrease in battery that is reported on leafspy they basically said they wouldn't even entertain leafspy as it's not recognised by them. Wait for the battery to drop to 8 and then bring it in is what they said.


    It's very annoying waiting as it will seriously hinder me selling on the car at the moment. Even though my range doesn't seem to be overly affected (110km freezing temperatures, 135km at the moment in milder weather and last summer I was getting 170km in warm weather). I was getting similar with 12 bars. Seeing only 9 bars would put off potential buyers if I did want to sell though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,119 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    When I flagged the rapid decrease in battery that is reported on leafspy they basically said they wouldn't even entertain leafspy as it's not recognised by them. Wait for the battery to drop to 8 and then bring it in is what they said.

    I suppose it is fair enough that they wont recognise Leafspy. Its not a Nissan app, however, they have access to the same data so they can see the issue as well.

    The dealer will just follow Nissan's guidance. The dealer wont get paid for doing unapproved work so its Nissan corporates fault not your dealer really. It does sound like you have time on your hands though in terms of a warranty claim so hopefully you get a good result. A few rapid charges might speed things up a bit for you if you want to speed it along! 😉

    Does LeafSpy actually show you have a weak cell(s)?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭creedp


    Thats pretty good range for 69% SOH TBH. Mine's at 70.5% SOH and lucky to get 100km at present even on a single journey driving at extreme granny speed, approx 95 kph indicated (less than 80kph GPS). If I do a number of shorter journeys range could drop as low as mid 80s.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭sh81722


    Does your car show the "Low Battery Warning" really early (our 30 kWh model with 80% SOH at about 17%) and then just drives for ages without the battery depleting towards the "very LBW". That may be an indication that the battery health is actually much better in reality than what the BMS shows and that's what the HV_BATTERY upgrade fixes. That was how ours used to work when we bought it last year with the old firmware version.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Delete



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Not sure really. I can't say I know how to read the cells to be honest. I was just going by the SOH and how fast it's been decreasing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Ya that's why I'm not sure what's up. The estimated range actually seems to be pretty ok, it's just the bars and SOH keep dropping. Something is being mis-read somewhere.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Jofspring



    The low battery warning usually kicks in around 20%. It can move down very quickly from there. I rarely go that low though, I need the car pretty much 100% every day most of the year so would charge it up when it gets to about 40%. I've driven it to 0% once, car was still going for about 2km at 0% but I was home then and wasn't going to take the chance to see how much further I could go at 0%.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭creedp


    Pretty much a mirror image of how I manage my charging. Given that 50% SOC could yield less than 40kms, I will always charge to full every time the SOC goes below 60%. My low battery warning kicks in at 19% and then drops very rapidly to 6% and then the dreaded '--' appears but the car seems to go on for a fair bit after that until the turtle warning appears. I never risk driving it to real zero to see what kind of buffer exists at that stage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Email received today


    NissanConnect EV services will be temporarily unavailable


    Dear x


    NissanConnect EV Services will undergo essential maintenance during the upcoming months, commencing in April.

    This will take place in stages and during these maintenance periods, you will experience disruption to NissanConnect EV services.


    You will be notified about upcoming maintenance periods in the NissanConnect EV app and on the connectivity portals.

    Once the maintenance period is completed, services will resume.


    We apologise for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.


    If you are unable to access NissanConnect EV services once the maintenance period concludes, please use the feedback form below to contact your Customer Services Team.


    Kind Regards, Nissan Ireland



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    Anything to watch out for when buying a 2nd Gen Leaf, except for battery health?

    Looking at 2019-2020 models

    I assume the more quick charges it has the worse off the battery is but what even is a low amount of quick charges?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    There are a lot of mixed reports out there because it is the internet, but is it possible to check for battery health on leaf 2019 and newer leaf models using the steering wheel?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    Yes it has a bar chart from 0 to 1 and that shows the health.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭claw


    Hi, is anyone having a problem with the Nissan EV app. It won't let me log into it. Never had any problems with it before.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭sh81722


    Hah, I tried to refresh the charge status this morning and it was on the blink. I killed the app and it worked afterwards.

    It has been quite ok recently. They did some work on the backend in the last few weeks but the reliability of the Connect continues to disappoint



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,589 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    You're lucky to never have had issues with it before.

    It's not the most reliable of apps.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭jasonb


    Just curious, how often do people get the Leaf's service if they're going to a main dealer? I was lucky enough to get a new Leaf last year. The Service Book says every 30,000km or 1 Year, but my Dealer's sticker says every 20,000km or 1 Year. I'll be doing every year anyhow, as I don't hit 20,000 in a year, but I'm curious about which is correct!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Neither. There's feck all to service. It's not an ICE car. The "service" generally consists of them changing the pollen filter unnecessarily and topping up the washer fluid. My own 2014 Leaf needed nothing done other than tyres, wiper blades and a couple of pollen filters. I had a full brake fluid flush done a couple of months ago and was told by the mechanic the old fluid was perfect. Original pads still on the car with plenty of meat, because regen breaking and mostly city driving has been extra kind to it.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭sh81722


    Testing the brake fluid needs equipment that detects the boiling point and it makes sense to change it regardless of mileage every 3 or 4 years. The only reason why I have used dealer is if the car is new and in warranty (like with the previous new LEAFs or last year when we bought an used one with 7 battery bars remaining and I wanted firmware upgrade and some comeback if the battery fails).

    The dealers want to stick on some random number of km on the sticker (in our case 15k) but Nissan does specify every year/30k km whichever comes sooner. And every 2 years for the brake fluid which is rather often.



  • Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭the 12 th man


    Service every 30,000K which is basically a valet of your car.



  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭sonyvision


    I have a loan of a Nissan leaf 40kw, SVE trim. I will possibly have the option of buying this exact car in December as a family member will be trading it in. Living in Dublin but need to drive down the country to family probably every 2nd or 3 weekend. Distance wise is 155km but is all motorway. Am I over optimistic in saying I could get this journey complete at 110kph on cruise control on a single charge in winter? My wife does not like the idea of stopping. In Dublin we have plenty of range, office charging and driveway so I can install my own charger but she thinks I'm mad and want to go diesel.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭sh81722


    SVE is a nice spec! 155 km at 110 km/h indicated (which is about 105 real speed on 2018->) is not going to be a problem.

    In the middle of winter, if it looks tight for example due to a hurricane level winds, would you be able to use the supplied granny charger for small topup which visiting as a backup solution i.e. is there a regular socket somewhere near?



  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭sonyvision


    The 155km is one way, so it's 305/310 return trip. I'll need to plug it in using the granny cable to charge and I'm always down for at least a day.

    Stopping on the route down which normally takes 1hr 30mins would make the journey longer. Also the stops are limited it is down the m9 motorway. Jumping in the N7 to M9.

    I looked up the cost of the charging at apple Green and Circle K. It's pretty expensive and probably works out the same as my diesel car.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭sh81722


    Yeh, for the low running costs and convenience the key is to home charge and avoid public charging. We never got anything less than 200 km of range when owning a 40 kWh model so you should be totally fine I reckon once you can charge at your destination.

    We had a frequent 180 km return journey, N roads, and even in the depth of winter there was always plenty of range to spare. Going EV will save you loads anyway with those frequent longish trips.



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