Irish Cricket 2023

Furze99 · 23-03-2023 12:08pm

Anyone any idea why it's the quick seam bowlers that are doing us in? I had the impression we were fairly steady against this but more troubled by spin.

Josh Little needed for a bit of a threat in the bowling dept.

If this lot get off to a solid start, we could be looking at a 10 wicket win for them. I suppose miracles can happen!

wicorthered · 23-03-2023 12:56pm

Arguably the worst performance since Irish Cricket went professional. They look like club cricketers, bad club cricketers at that. It's bad enough they have been comprehensibly outclassed, but they haven't even shown any fight.

On the Josh Little front, Little's Irish career hasn't long left I'd imagine. Now that he's a regular on the T20 circuit I can't see where he fits in time to play for Ireland, especially such a poor Ireland team.

VillaMad · 23-03-2023 1:20pm

It's a head-scratcher for sure. Ireland had a really decent 2022 and were pretty much competitive in every game they played and now to go this series where it is unquestionably the worst series any Irish cricket team has ever played in and it's not even close.

I mean Bangladesh are a decent side but no more than that and although I certainly thought Bangladesh would win this series, this is amateur from Ireland and that is being kind in the extreme.

Furze99 · 23-03-2023 1:21pm

Lambs to the slaughter.

Morale must be really low now.

I suppose the T20s are about bashing the ball so they ride their luck there.

The test match will be very tough.

Furze99 · 23-03-2023 1:43pm

"Andrew Balbirnie, Ireland Captain: We're very disappointed. Don't think the cricket over the past three days reflects the type of cricket we've played in the last 2-3 years. We did expect spin to play a big part, but our defence with the bat wasn't good enough. We did not adapt well enough."

"We did expect spin to play a big part" - is this the issue? An assumption that playing out there, that spin was the threat. I thought coaches & captains should be figuring various scenarios out and preparing to adapt?

Royale with Cheese · 23-03-2023 2:10pm

Ouch

Strumms · 23-03-2023 3:18pm

It’s a ground and a pitch conducive to a team scoring well. Ball spinning, not spinning, that’s zero excuse.

yet,

Ireland score 101 runs

Ireland get bowled out in 28.1 overs…

Ireland managed to bat for only 56% of their innings. 😵‍💫

Irelands bowlers take no wickets, not a single wicket..

Bangladesh successfully chase in 13.1 overs, just under 8 runs an over is the net run rate.

3.59 the Irish run rate and still get skittled.

Balbernie waffling out of him again after the match. Not a good, not a professional or very respectful attitude towards the Irish cricket fan.

and…..all the above against… Bangladesh….not Australia, South Africa, England or India, Humiliated by Bangladesh.…being beaten by them, sure, that’s entirely possible but fûck that, not laid a glove on them, we’ve been murdered by them, annihilated.

wait till you hear… “ we are keeping faith with the lads and…. “

Strumms · 24-03-2023 12:20am

surprised but pleased the test is a five day match instead of a four day match… if it’s over in three and a half or four days so be it but four day really restricts you if there is bad weather early in the test…. Lose two and a half sessions in four days play and you lose the likelihood of a result. Five offers more breathing room.

the T20 series doesn’t really have the same appeal…but be nice to get a victory or two under our belts… be intriguing to observe how we bounce back from the poor ODI showing

Furze99 · 27-03-2023 10:34am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120394119#Comment_120394119

Not very well to judge - going at near 11 an over. Looks like a 200+ target.

What'll we get in reply? 120?

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 12:35pm

Rain has stopped, Ireland will chase 104 in 8 overs, need 13 per over, possible I suppose, or could be 30 all out?

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 12:46pm

18/0 off 1

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 12:50pm

32/0 off 2

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 12:52pm

3 dots and a wicket in the 3rd over, 32/1, 2.4 overs

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 12:55pm

37/1, need 67 off 5

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 12:57pm

37/2, Tucker out

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 1:00pm

Stirling out 40/3, all 3 bowled

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 1:10pm

60/4 now, 44 to get in 3

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 1:14pm

Sinking now, only 5 off the 6th over, 39 off 2 required

Mysterypunter · 27-03-2023 1:28pm

Ended on 81/5, lost by 22

Strumms · 27-03-2023 2:50pm

I didn’t see any of it but you have to say really DL setting us 13 runs off each of the 8 overs …. Never likely, fantasy stuff.

207/5 from 19.2 Bangladesh scored…. 215-220 had they completed the innings.

that would have left ireland needing 11 runs an over.

so how the fûck does DL have us requiring 13 from each of the 8 ?

doesn’t seem like a reasonable or fair conversion. For any side, coming in cold starting an innings, hitting 13 runs in overs 1 through 8 ? Probably not a team in the world capable of that.

Started well, but once wickets fell, required momentum lost.

Strumms · 28-03-2023 3:55pm

Chattogram weather for tomorrow at the time of play is for a high of 31°. 16kmh winds which hopefully make it ‘feel’ slightly cooler. No rain forecast.

the reality is though that forecast overall will not be in our favour….

Furze99 · 29-03-2023 9:42am

I read that we won the toss, again.. at least that bit is going right :)

But no play yet and possibly a washout.

Furze99 · 29-03-2023 11:28am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120406705#Comment_120406705

LOL, Bangladesh seem to be hitting us for 13 an over today! 130 after 10.

Goodnight, maybe the rain will save us :)

wicorthered · 29-03-2023 11:37am

My God the Irish quicks are having the nightmare of all nightmare tours in Bangladesh. I don't know exactly what Mark Adair needs to do to be dropped, but if going at 14 an over isn't it, he'll never lose his place. Hand is completely out of his depth, can't understand how he gets picked.

It's one thing trying to mimic England's style, but you need to have the players that can actually do it. This is a nonsense approach. Coaches have been sacked for much better results than this. Bermuda and Kenya would be more competetive

wicorthered · 29-03-2023 12:33pm

This really is ridiculous, brain dead stuff. There's no plan here at all, just go out and have a slog and if you get out don't worry about it.

This tour should be fatal for the coach. He's clueless at this level. You can't play England style attacking cricket with the talent we have available. The players are not good enough

Furze99 · 29-03-2023 12:40pm

Oh dear.. don't look like the rain is going save us. Their quicks gave us trouble in the ODIs and now we're clueless against the spin, yer man has 5 for 14 runs and counting. In fairness, in this format and against this total, the only option is to try and thrash the ball.

Can we get to 10 overs, can we reach 100?

Furze99 · 29-03-2023 12:43pm

And we've a 5 day test match to try & negotiate with a reasonable face. Going to be tough.

wicorthered · 29-03-2023 12:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120415244#Comment_120415244

You don't braindead bash, you have a plan. They don't have any of that, they try and hit everything for 6. It's amateur hour out there. There's never any consolidation when a wicket falls, at 4 down they're still blindly swinging for the hills. It's not even a strategy that has ever worked for them. Have we ever chased down a large total in a T20i, against a full member by just blindly slogging at everything? We are 99% more likely to be 45/6 than 90/1 with this strategy. The only person that can't see that is that clown of a coach.

A coach that can't be bothered heading to the tour of Sri Lanka, although not having him there is a good thing

Strumms · 29-03-2023 1:00pm

20 runs an over the RRR and wickets falling like there is no tomorrow. 7 down after 11 overs… you’d be cringing if this was happening against Australia, England or India, but Bangladesh ? Can’t wait for the Stirling or Balbernie interview. 👀

wicorthered · 29-03-2023 1:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120415319#Comment_120415319

"The boys are disappointed, we didn't play our best cricket, we know we're better than we showed. We'll take the positives and move onto the next game"

The same rubbish they always talk. The dreadful bowling and brain dead batting won't be reflected on at all, sure it's all just bad luck. Our new aggresive style is working perfectly......

Strumms · 29-03-2023 1:15pm

RRR… *drum roll*

34.9

wicorthered · 29-03-2023 1:15pm

It's not even the results that bother me. I fully expected to lose all 7 games. Bangladesh contrary to opinion are now a very good team, especially at home. What is unforgivable is the lack of fight and the lack of game intelligence.

How many wides does Adair bowl a game? Will he ever realise he hasn't the skill to execute what he's trying and come up with a different idea. We've had 5 games of the quicks being smashed out of the ground and yet they are STILL sticking devoutly to the same plans. Go back through cricinfos commentary and see how often length balls to the fence, yet they keep bowling that length.

As for the batters, they don't even try and play proper cricket anymore, they've no value on their wicket. Just go out and slog and if I'm out who cares. Look how many wickets fall to the first ball of an over. They don't even give themselves a sighter, just wildly smash.

Strumms · 29-03-2023 1:24pm

There is a fine line between ‘no fear’ cricket and ‘brain dead’ cricket… but Ireland have both feet in the brain dead camp. Not an intelligent team. No great leadership.

Lost our first 3 wickets in 2.5 overs.. Stirling gone first ball.. way to set the tone.

the one plus is Campher scoring 50 off 30…one of only 3 batsmen so far in double figures.

Hume going well also… adding a flicker of respectability to the score.

done… a 77 run defeat in a 17 over a side game.

I wonder why it was a reduced overs game, considering that stadium has floodlights ?

Mysterypunter · 29-03-2023 1:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120406705#Comment_120406705

It's based on resources, 10 wickets available over a shorter time, so the rate is increased because of that, 95-96 looked a fairer assessment for sure, well stuffed again today, the bowlers are being hammered in every game

riffmongous · 29-03-2023 5:49pm

This is a terrible tour, even by out standards. Normally you'd expect to get at least one competitive game, at the moment it's just Bangla setting new records over and over

Furze99 · 29-03-2023 7:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120415282#Comment_120415282

What's the story with the coaching? I don't know much about that end of things.

wicorthered · 29-03-2023 9:42pm

I really don't rate him. I think he's all spoof. Listening to him talk you'd think he's revolutionized Irish cricket, where in fact nothing's really changed. A decent world cup had been followed by a mix bagged Zimbabwe tour and this shambolic performance. I don't think he's improved the team at all.

He's obsessed with this aggressive cricket approach, particularly batting. The batting approach has been nuts all series. Match situations don't seem to matter anymore. If you lose a couple of wickets the normal reaction is consolidate for a bit, let the batter get his eye in before going for the big shots. Instead Ireland seem to think they can just blast their way out of trouble. I don't get it, who looks at that batting line up and thinks that's the right approach. It works for England, but Ireland don't have Butler, Bairstow, Stokes etc. We don't have the players to play that way. consistently.

Today for example why not give the openers license to go for it. If they get us off to a flyer then keep going like that, you have momentum. But at 7/2 and 26/3, why are they persisting with this. 26/3 is much more likely to end up at 40/6 than 140/3 playing like that.

The bowlers have been taken apart 5 games running, the tactics aren't changing though. I know the attack is a limited attack, but it looks like he won't adjust the tactics no matter how many 6s are hit.

To top off his poor coaching performance, he's not bothered going to Sri Lanka. The head coach is being rested for two test matches. He'd have a defense if Ireland played lots of games but they don't they play very little cricket. The head coach will miss half the test matches Ireland play this year. Not a great message about how serious Ireland take this format, especially considering they nearly went bankrupt chasing test cricket

Furze99 · 30-03-2023 11:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120417564#Comment_120417564

Hmm.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Malan

What seems to be missing from the CV is experience with teams, players, conditions and cricket in Europe.

Strumms · 31-03-2023 3:14am

He’s a bizarre appointment.

no playing career of note at all.

10 first class matches, 9 list A matches, over a whole career.

His coaching is really only in limited overs… for a team hell bent on transitioning to playing test cricket in time. Also in New Zealand there are only 6 teams playing top tier first class cricket, so what victories he’s helped oversee have been in some of the lesser competitive competitions in the world…

unless he came ‘recommended’ in certain quarters it’s a head scratcher to see how he was considered a viable candidate…..

in other news… New Zealand are absolutely thrashing Sri Lanka… SL are 51/4 after 15 overs.. SL look atrocious here…

wicorthered · 31-03-2023 9:06am

Fionn Hand to open the bowling. That's Bangladesh off to a great start. Had he ever bowled a boundary free over??

wicorthered · 31-03-2023 9:11am

Mark Adair almost pulls off the rarest feat in cricket a boundary less over from an Irish quick!

wicorthered · 31-03-2023 9:37am

Despite the wickets 7 of the first 8 overs had at least one boundary. An ongoing situation that's punished more often than not!

Strumms · 31-03-2023 9:52am

64/7 after 10 overs. We have Bangladesh up sheet creek. Irish bowlers getting results….strange feeling.. now finishing the job, bowl them out sub 100 and let’s cruise this home !

if we don’t bring home the win from here. Lads come on, don’t fûck this up !

2/3 off Humphrey’s first over, impressed.

Furze99 · 31-03-2023 9:59am

Looks like we could be in with a shout today. Bangladesh taking a leaf from our book :)

Can we finish them off though??

Strumms · 31-03-2023 10:10am

Only conceded 12 boundaries in 14 overs, impressed with that, so far only 3 extras.

Furze99 · 31-03-2023 10:40am

So 6 an over needed, best not to count too many chickens yet!

Strumms · 31-03-2023 10:47am

Could have done without conceding 12 runs from that 19th over… a dropped catch too, disaster.

innings over 124 all out.

Bangladesh having been 61/7 you’d probably say Ireland will be quite disappointed not to have limited their score to say 100 maximum.

Conceding 63 runs from the last 3 wickets will be disappointing….

wicorthered · 31-03-2023 11:03am

absolutely no need to slog here. Sensible batting wins this

Xander10 · 31-03-2023 11:06am

What channel is it on?

NinetyForNone · 31-03-2023 11:09am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120422724#Comment_120422724

Americans can watch it on YouTube 😉

Irish Cricket 2023

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