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Kellie Harrington. Was she hung out to dry or did she hang herself out to dry?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,790 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Is nineTEEN not a teenager now? Have the wokerati changed how numbers work?



  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Paterson Jerins


    Well hynesie, I'm not a journalist hounding a sports star to ask a question about a tweet, whilst having loads of horrible tweets of my own.

    Then delete them when everyone finds out about them. Laughable...

    Being 16 is a lie, when he was in college. He was a ucd student.

    Read what evolvingtipperary said above.

    Why are you defending him? Do you agree with his horrible tweets?



  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Paterson Jerins


    Haha.

    Defending a d1ck like hannon?

    19 is an adult.

    Mong, roscommonretard is okay by you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,790 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Thanks for spelling hynesie right, amazing how many get it wrong even though it's there.

    There are tweets ranging from 2010 to 2013, so from when he was 16, so not a lie.

    I'm not defending him, I just don't hold someone saying stupid **** when they were a teenager over their heads 10 years later, because there's a big difference between 19 and 29. There's no difference between 32 and 33.

    If we're dragging people over the coals for how they behaved as teenagers, maybe Kellie would share her history?



  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭Paterson Jerins


    Hold on. There is a big difference between 16 and 19.

    19, he is an adult and a third level student. In his statement he said "16", but didn't take account of anything he said as an adult. So obviously lying to try and sound like he was just a silly child, when clearly he was proved wrong.

    He used mkng and roscommonretard when he was an adult. Why is there still people defending him?

    Again I ask the question, can we all just admit that they've said silly things on social media and move on?

    The abuse kellie has gotten is horrendous. His tweets are definitely worse, albeit 10 years old. The hypocrisy is what is annoying me. Mainly how smug hannon and his pals were directly after the interview. A gotcha moment.

    And I spelled your name correctly because I looked back twice to be sure, to be sure



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  • Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭sonar44



    Well of course my dole is safe, I never had to sign up to any mysteriously received agenda to receive it, so far anyway.


    Speaking of which, I'm still no closer to finding out where this esoteric manifesto for correct thinking is laid out. Have you a link?

    It's just a discussion. Something more important is bound to come along.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Shane was born in to a well to do family, went to UCD, he is well connected now, earning well.


    It's not like he came from a heavy wet farm in Monaghan with more days than dinners or from inner city Dublin.


    If the Left turn on him, then are they all open season, not going to happen he knows it, we all can see the difference in treatment, class solidarity will come through once again. They move in the same circles. If he was from a poorer family, studied at the "wrong" 3rd level institution, he'd be already hung out to dry.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,281 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    He's lucky Trump just got indicted. That'll be that for this story. Beers all round for the OTB boys.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,073 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yeah, subscribe to the journal of common sense and you'll find out.

    Anyone can think what they like and say what they like, but anyone who thinks that actions don't have consequences, is stupid.

    Hypocrisy from public figures gets called out and challenged. QED.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,657 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    In Kellie's favour is the fact that she is a popular figure overall and has a fair amount of goodwill towards her. I don't see this episode being hugely damaging to her - it has the look of something that will be a seven day wonder and will quickly fade away.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    And rightly so, whilst acknowledging that this is much to the disappointment of several posters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭crusd


    Can people not see that a public figure, receiving public money and sponsorship will always be held more accountable for their comments than what was said when someone was a teenager.

    And even so, as soon as Hannons tweets were dug up he released a statement saying he was ashamed, embarrassed and apologised. Where he talked about wishing he could have told his teenage self about the damage language can do and called out that he is also accountable to the standards he holds his guest to. So owning his actions and not in any way hypocritical.

    The pile on against the interviewer however is yet another incidence of shooting the messenger rather than addressing the issue. You can legitimately seek to hold him to account over his actions, but that does not de-legitimise the question like many seem to think.

    On Harrington, she is a public figure in receipt of public money and private sponsorship where her public image is used, so anything she says in a public forum is a legitimate source for debate. It highlights that you must be thoughtful when reacting to emotive topics



  • Registered Users Posts: 55,688 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Guys, meet in the middle. It’s the only way. Interviewer did eff all wrong. Kellie did eff all wrong. Storm. Teacup.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,989 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    Yep- and if you’re going to take shilling to promote whatever it is she’s now promoting, you absolutely have to watch what you say and what you tweet- indeed, you need to assume that all of your communication will be scrutinised.

    And also, considering she quickly deleted that tweet, she obviously knew she did something that would affect her “brand”- why she didn’t have a prepared statement or couple of sentences to rattle off in response is just plain dumb- it was an obvious question to be asked- it’s now much bigger a story than it should be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Harrington was extremely poor in her response to the question. Really let herself down. Who was the other female voice advising her?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭crusd




  • Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭sonar44


    I think I need to subscribe to the the fallacy of alleged certainty to fully appreciate this masterpiece.

    It's just a discussion. Something more important is bound to come along.



  • Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭sonar44




    It certainly highlights how the contemporary thought police work if nothing else. One hopes they can one day contemplate a visit to Spar, after an appropriate healing period, without their world caving in.

    Post edited by sonar44 on

    It's just a discussion. Something more important is bound to come along.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    The kind of public atonement we saw from Hannon on Twitter about off colour comments he made ten years ago is the kind of middle class **** that would leave Kellie looking like a phoney in her locality , talk of “ wishing he could talk to his teenage self “ and other b0ll0cks , not everyone is impressed by that kind of painfully contrived performative secular confession



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭crusd


    Did you listen to it at all? She wasn't badgered, wasn't harangued, wasn't criticised by the interviewer, just given the opportunity to comment on her tweet. It seems those who need a healing period or those who can't countenance someone in the public eye being asked about something they choose to bring into discussion in a public forum. The "world caving in" appears to be around people getting triggered by other people being asked to talk to views that they expressed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 323 ✭✭sonar44


    In the interview I heard, the interviewer asked the same question a number of times and even managed to inexplicably squeeze in a monologue of his own impeccable and very safe views on immigration, if not his views on child murder.

    It's just a discussion. Something more important is bound to come along.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭crusd


    Just saying "be like Elsa and let it go" is a much better approach eh?

    And the rest of you post strikes me as inverse snobbery at actually being able to express yourself. Monaghan of course being where the elite reside in their ivory towers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Not about slagging someone for being articulate, it’s the whole phoney pious act of confession for past progressive sins so as to be let back into the woke fold, Kellie didn’t want that and just asked him plainly to move on, she’s not obliged to assuage the mob



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    If you compare

    a sportswoman whose forte is her sport, not criminology, politics or immigration policy, who retweeted a post about a particularly horrifying crime and quickly deleted the retweet when she was made aware of the background of the original tweeter

    and

    a third level educated, articulate journalist whose abilities wold include careful use of words, communication, investigation, analysis, understanding and illuminating potentially complex issues; posting in his own words, what could be construed as hate speach - distasteful and insulting at a minimum, availble to view online for years, only attempting to clean it up when it appears it might come back to embarrass him, misleading the public about his age when the posts in question were made....

    I know who I'd have more questions to ask.

    People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Shane Hannon tweets were violently anti LGBT.


    Unless there is a nice way to break a transvestites legs.


    Would he have apologized unless called out, has he really changed his views. He has to do more than words to reassure the LGBT community that they are safe from people like him.


    Naturally one should give him the benefit of the doubt but exercise caution near him, near his home or places he socialises.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭crusd




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Your trivialising violence against a community.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭crusd


    Ok, so you have chosen the "i wont cop myself on" path



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,102 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Shes a sportsperson not a politician. Why do we keep trying to hold these people to such high standards? She a boxer, strong working class background, leave her alone.



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