Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

They didn't have to launch a brand. It was there. They are doing all the stuff that they would be doing if they had remained within the royal family. The only one entitled to a title was Prince George going on the Letters Patent. The other Cambridge children were not. Anyway, since it was inevitable that they would get titles, why the hold out? Were they hoping that Meghan would leave without Harry and take Archie with her? It would not do to have given him a title if that is the scenario they were working to.

The two aunts have been more support than the rest of the Royal Family put together. Who should they be close to: Princess Michael of Kent who is about 80 and a raging racist! He only has one brother and four first cousins of his age group (Edward's children are all teenagers) and he seems still close to two of them. Friendly enough with Zara and no idea about Peter Phillips, but I imagine they are keeping their heads low.

He shat all over her family with racist allegations to an audience of 50 million while her husband was dying not to mention his "genetic pain" bollox, shat all over her legacy of the Commonwealth which was derided as Empire 2.0, signed for millions to write a memoir and didn't go see a 96 year old who hadn't long left given such an age when given the chance to do so at Balmoral last summer and thus missed her before she died soon after. He didn't attend her husbands memorial service but did fly home this week to attend preliminary court hearings not an actual trial as well. If he has fondness then he has/had a very very strange way of showing it to be honest.

This really is an amazing post, contorting what went on so much as to twist the narrative to breaking point.

H&M invented their brand, Sussex Royal, all monogrammed and set up. The brand didn't exist before Meghan and Harry got together. Meghan loves brands. They wanted their cake and eat it. Life doesn't work like that. Being a member of the RF isn't on the à la carte menu. You can't pick and choose and it was the late Queen who made that clear. There is no evidence whatsoever that they wanted to remain full time royals. Meghan was exasperated that she didn't get paid for a walkabout in Australia!

I see that you are accusing the King and Prince William of being racist. Even Harry has selected reverse gear on that particular slur.

The Letters Patent were quite clear that their children would have the titles. The Letters also put the female children into the Line of Succession, hence why Princess Charlotte now appears. You have obviously forgotten that H&M originally didn't want the titles - but then it became clear that they could monetise them in future. Neither Princess Anne nor Prince Edward took up the opportunity for their children, by the way, for exactly the reasons that H&M originally used.

Harry was so very close to the late Queen that he couldn't make it to Balmoral last year. She was 96 and in poor health. Very caring, indeed.

I'm very interested in how the British media operates and Harry and Meghan are a good case study in how the media spin everything. I actually feel sorry for the royal family and the British people because a couple of media barons can control the minds of the British people. I just hope that the court case goes to trial so that the Daily Mail is exposed for what it is. I don't hold out much hope for the British people though - The Charge of the Light Brigade comes to mind - even though they knew they were marching to certain death, they still kept marching on. Instead of thinking how stupid they were to do that, they think it was the honorable thing to do.

I looked up Ninaki Priddy and an interview she gave - seems like she took sides in a divorce and it wasn't Meghan's side. Her ex-husband hasn't had a bad word to say about her and she took nothing from him, including sending back the ring. Then people say she is on the make with Harry! Her father let her down badly by taking money from the press (by the way, a tabloid owner has a restraining order against Thomas Markle https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/celebrities/2022/09/14/6321644622601db5728b45c3.html Seemingly, Thomas is blaming him for destroying his relationship with his daughter Meghan.

I don't think you have made much of a case about Meghan falling out with a lot of people. She only seems to have fallen out with people who have done her wrong.

Ah come off it would you? You'd swear I was making a difficult to prove case when there is literally tons of evidence out there that Meghan treats people poorly. You must be on a wind up here just amusing yourself playing devil's advocate because you can't possibly be serious! 🙄

But my friend I'm not trying to be believable because this is not just what I'm saying, it's what a great many are saying and the evidence speaks for itself. There is, I repeat, tons of evidence out there that Meghan treats people poorly and is quite clearly a very self centered, entitled woman. Tons. You know it and I know it and I've no intention of going off googling as I've no interest in point scoring here with you. I used to actually like Meghan and Harry too but I'd find it impossible to give her the benefit of the doubt now as like I say, the evidence that she's not nice is overwhelming and while some of it might be wrong or unfair, it can't all be. Ever heard the expression, "no smoke without fire"?

Oh, please! There's a parallel universe, inhabited it seems by a few boardsies, where H&M are poor victims of the behaviour of the Royal Family. They deserve security because they are such high profile targets of nefarious agents who are hell bent on doing damage to the entirely philanthropic and selfless activities. They were hounded out of the RF because of racism, which is rife within the RF. They are victims of the British tabloids' campaign to discredit them. They are role models and lead exemplary lives, showing the way forward.

Meanwhile, in the real world, the rest of us get on, making a living, trying not to disrupt others, not whining and whinging about how tough our lives are, not being millionaires, not having had an education only accessible to a privileged few.

After you have digested the word salad they use, have a read of this and see what you think about what their mission really is

So she is a victim of bad behaviour. Ok then. So when someone treats you badly you don't look to engage in at least some attempt at reconciliation, adult discussion, introspection or giving benefit of the doubt to perhaps avoid having to take the ultimate step to cut ties? It is simply a cut them out and avoid/ignore them going forward clearly.

If it was one or two people then that is one thing since obviously we'll all experience clashes but when you're alienated from your extended maternal family, your paternal family, your ex husband and his family, your former friends, the Royal family....then maybe just maybe Meghan is to blame as well? But no she reacted to bad behaviour. People seemingly can't stop treating her badly.

You know the old saying of if one day you met one asshole then you met an asshole but if you kept meeting assholes all day then perhaps you are actually the asshole. Point is there is obviously a pattern established there where Meghan is the common denominator in these falling outs (plural). That is completely her prerogative mind you but when you tout and brand yourself as this compassionate humanitarian then people will unsurprisingly side eye you in your words and actions.

He funds his own lifestyle.

This on the other hand is pretty grotesque.

Agreed, you’re right.

It’s not just Brits that cough up, it’s every taxpayer in the UK! Me included. 😀

it would depend on the treatment/behaviour and the individual's history.

given what we know about a lot of the members of those families, then realistically it is the case that if meghan has any blame, it is small.

her father sold stories to the news papers and kept doing it dispite her attempts to reach out.

she won a case against her (what is it) half sister.

we know the stiffs in the RF absolutely had it in for her, whatever about the actual family itself.

as pointed out by another poster, her x husband hasn't had a bad word to say about her.

so yes i am afraid in this case she is actually the victim.

most of us don't have the type of family members meghan does on the scale that she does, so to us it would not be normal.

Re the husband, could it be that he "hasn't a bad word to say against her" because he says nothing at all? Just hasn't got involved since his ex became one of the most famous people on the planet and a very sensible stance to take, imo. Shut mouth catches no flies and all that. But saying nothing reveals nothing about how he feels. She mailed him back the rings for chrissake! She just ended it with him, a marriage! I heard something about how he recently directed some very ironic movie/play about a prince. Now I don't know where I read that and can't remember details and mea culpa if I'm wrong but I really have no intention of trawling through all the stuff to point score here. But my point is that silence doesn't necessarily mean anything is condoned.

And I agree with the others. Shocking to cut people off because they pssed you off in some way. Without any attempt to hear the other side and reconcile.

there is no "other side" to be heard where a parent sells stories to the media and keeps doing it dispite plenty of attempts to reach out, as an example.

i think really given what we do know about the majority of those she has cut off there seems to be no other side worth hearing.

The fact that no one explained why they separated. They had been together for about 10 years (married for 2). For the marriage part, they were living in two different countries. Meghan had just got her big break with Suits which would last for 6 or 7 years. Maybe he wanted her to give up her big break and move back to California and she wanted to keep working. Maybe he refused to move to Canada. You just don't know and presuming that it was all her fault is a bit presumptious of you. I would take it as a great compliment to Meghan that he hasn't talked bearing in mind the bribes that must have been going around for people to talk about their relationship for example:

Are you implying that she broke up with him by just sending back the rings as claimed by some 'royal expert' in a book? I think you might be reading too much into saying she returned her rings (when normally people would be critical of someone who held onto the jewelry after a split). You are reading too many British tabloids if you think he was producing a movie about a prince! I think we would hear about that if he did.

Name those who she has cut off (other than the Markles - father, step sister and brother who have been on the make). She has protected her Ragland family who didn't want the infamy and she is very close to Samantha's Markle's daughter, Ashling (who was abandoned by her mother Samantha as a 2 year old).