The Tipperary GAA Discussion Thread

This league has done a lot for us, Lots of players got lots of game time, O Connor, Tynan, O Meara, Enda Heffernan, Stakelum, Connolly, Johnny Ryan, Sean Ryan, Conor Bowe, all played a significant amount of hurling at a good level.

Last night was a level of intensity and stress that they have most likely have never experienced before. As they ramp up the intensity Limerick still hurl with the most cool calm focus imaginable. I believe that their coaching is second to none in that at half time they can assess what's happened and set up to exploit the way the opposition team are playing. Remember the water breaks and the tactics board? 60 - 90 seconds to see what shape they wanted to change to and the players could adapt. Last night Coughlan and Barry Nash were quiet in the first half. In the second half they kept pouring forward as runners taking and giving pop passes and breaking into space. Limerick absolutely flooded their half backline in the second half and totally slaughtered us there.

Last night highlighted issues that are there, and will need to be addressed. The full backline? Breen has been/hasn't been, our choice there. If he's not (and I don't believe he ever will be a full back) we've wasted a lot of time there. Ronan could drop in there fine. Bonner isn't working, he's simply not winning enough ball.

From last year we are missing Dillon Quirke, Barry Heffernan and Craig Morgan. That's a massive hole to fill in an evolving team.

Wasn't Breen. It was Johnny Ryan.

You make some good points. But I can't agree that it was ideal.

One thing that showed up, that was bound to show up, was the options a management team, in terms of tactics variation and personnel, has in year five/six has over a new management team.

We need to figure out more tactics of playing the ball out. But also the option runs being made up front for guys playing the ball out needs to be far greater. How many of those can you develop after a few months in the job? Not many. And that's the rock Tipp will perish on this year - especially against Limerick.

After last night, I wouldn't be surprised to see at least three changes up front for the Clare game. And, I think Enda and Podge should have got a lot more time during the league. When we're playing Limerick again, Enda, Podge, Bowe, and Sean Ryan will have to start. You need lads who have the power to stand over a ball and get it up - and hold off a man while passing it. Amazed O'Connor wasn't tried full forward for a bit if you're looking for an inside forward who can win or break ball.

Noel looked best when playing from deep and looking for options but can you afford that type of luxury against Limerick?

Counted two Tipp forwards against four backs in the full back line in the second half more times that I'd like...

Noel and Jake will do well to keep their places for Ennis. I wouldn't be picking them anyway (not that that counts for much). While Bonnar ran himself into the ground, he had not a lot to show for it. The likes of Jake and Kehoe don't work hard enough. Noel didn't work hard enough last night either. Couple of lads are hiding from where it hurts to go. That's criminal.

Jason is our best forward. Time to bring in the likes of Sean Ryan, Bowe, and maybe bring Dan back up, around him. Perhaps, the energy and running of Stakelum and Tynan might be needed up front to track runners - they have the pace and energy to do it.

I think Enda Heff and John Campion need to start too. Maybe they could form a defensive midfield pairing. We're too open as it is.

The movement and running of Ger Browne and Barry Heffernan is badly missed. It would really give us something different and long range point taking ability.

You gave me a bolixn a few weeks ago when I suggested ye were ahead of us this year 😂

I still stand on that I really do last night was a perfect example, that game was played at championship pace for most of it and ye stood up to it

Bonner has been excellent, forde is on top of his game again Jake Morris is dangerous in fairness as is Noel, enda heffernan has been Excellent

Can you say that about Clare this year , fair enough we have a different approach but it's a more risky one

That's why I have you lot ahead of us at the moment, although seamie being out pulls it back in our favour 4 weeks today

I did and as we all know like the time ye were 10 points up at half time a few years ago, the Limerick lads got a whiff of asthma at half time and given the usual doses of adrenaline from Dr McManus as we all know by now 😜

We don't have such doctors up here in Clare were more like mountain climbers that forget were afraid of heights

A nice handy on my bolix 😂

That's quite possible to repeat in 4 weeks time , especially if Rory Hayes is starting for us

I think we've plenty of forwards capable of goals.

But can we carry Jake's lack of work rate?

To my thinking, in the modern game, now more than ever, there's room for one sharpshooter and Forde does that but also has, crucially, work rate. Limerick and Kilkenny are not carrying any forward - as far as I can see, and they'll opt for work rate over a sharp shooter all day. Why should Tipp carry someone? I think both Forde and Bowe have goals in them and work rate. We've got to prioritize work rate after last night. Work rate leads to turn overs that can lead to goals.

I think Sheedy had it right, Morris and Kehoe are best coming on with 15 or 10 mins to go - when the game gets loose and defenders get tired. I was also less than impressed with Kehoe's effort after he came on. But I'm not giving up on Jake after one game - but I'm saying last night's performance does not lend itself to a championship start.

How is dropping Jake and Noel ripping up everything? Part of creating competition for places and setting high standards is dropping players when they under perform....

You believe all that, despite not creating one goal chance last night? Never mind getting one goal?

Teams set up and defence will be a lot different come championship. A lot tighter.

You seem to think Jake is our only avenue to goals. I don't agree. I hope he scores lots of goals but the lack of work rate and fight last night is a major worry. I'm not saying he was the only one up front not pulling his weight but it's not acceptable. Saw too much of that last year.

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Cahill is only starting the rebuild which in fairness colm bonner started last year. It will take time for cahill to build a panel good enough to match clare Cork waterford Galway and the cats.

We have to be patient as I think tipp getting out of munster will be a very good year. Not trying to play down tipp but for me we are not as strong as people are making out.

Some of the recency bias here is hilarious! Two weeks ago we were ready to take on the world, suddenly after a poor 35 mins hurling (which followed a 35 mins that no other county outside of Limerick have come close to) we are sh*te again and we need to drop 6 or 7 lads!

Cards on the table, I said here at the begining of the year that we would not win a game in Munster this year with the draw we have and the turnover of players, and while I have been very impressed with Cahill and Bevans I still think we face a mammoth task to get a win.

Barrett and Morgan are two huge losses, I wouldn't have any great confidence in either corner back. Ronan Maher needs to be told that if takes another fcukin shot at goal he is off, the guy is supposed to be a leader and he hits 4-5 stupid wides every game, brainless.

Stakelum hasn't done enough to partner Tynan I feel, Campion of Heffernan to wing back and Dan McCormack back to the middle.

Noel McGrath will start every game and if anyone thinks we have 6 better forwards they are deluded. O'Connor has been a huge positive. Forde is the best forward in the country at the moment not to mind the county but who will the two corner forwards be - two of Morris, Bowe and Ryan I guess with probably the first two getting the nod.

I'm reminded of the old Fianna Fail election slogan ' a lot done more to do'

Limericks Cian Lynch is transferring to Loughmore Castleiney.

In a short statement Lynch said

“It’s been a boyhood dream of mine to play with my fathers club and to tog out with the likes of Noel McGranth and bring back the Dan Breen to Loughmore. The Tipperary blood in me is just too strong to resist going back to the home of hurling.“

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