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Considering moving to drogheda

  • 10-12-2020 7:49pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 38


    As the title says, i'm aiming to move to drogheda sometime next year but have never really been around the area aside from laytown and bettystown.

    Is there much difference between the northside and southside of drogheda? There's a place northeast im considering but i'd like to be close to the gyms in the southwest - i can be fairly lazy at the best of times so ease of travel would help.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,618 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    If you are commuting to Dublin in order to access M1 from North Drogheda you must pay a toll or go through the town.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 WarbossPepe


    Cheers elperello, wasn't aware of that before. Bit of a scummy move having a toll point right outside a town like that. Hoping to be working remotely so it shouldn't impact too much.

    Do you know what the story is between the north and south of drogheda? Only thing i know about the town is from what gets told from the media really - not generally the most flattering


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭POBox19


    "i'd like to be close to the gyms in the southwest".


    Decision made right there!
    Crossing the town from either side can be a nightmare at times and if being close to the gym is important you just have to be there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭John Hutton


    There is a massive difference between the Meath and Louth sides of Drogheda. Generally the Dublin road area on the South side is the nicest place to live and is where the train station is.

    Like all towns there are places to avoid. Put up the locations of where you are looking and I can give some feedback.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 WarbossPepe


    Its looking like the knightswood area, or the beaulieu village area. Pretty opposite parts of the town really.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38 WarbossPepe


    POBox19 wrote: »
    Decision made right there!
    Crossing the town from either side can be a nightmare at times and if being close to the gym is important you just have to be there.


    haha yeah its definitely leaning that way. wish the bank balance felt the same way though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭John Hutton


    Its looking like the knightswood area, or the beaulieu village area. Pretty opposite parts of the town really.
    Are you buying or renting?

    Knightswood is close to Knockbrack Downs which is not a great area (not the worst either mind), lots of houses sold over the years considering that is a relatively new estate and there are quite a few social housing tenants there. Houses in Knightswood look nice though and would be handy for the motorway.

    Beaulieu Village is on the outskirts of town, would be a massive pain to commute to Dublin from there tbh. Its in the Aston village area which while alright wouldn't be the best area with lots of renters there too.

    Of the two I would say Knightswood (which is in Co Meath) would be better as it is much better for commute to Dublin. I will be buying a house in Drogheda next year, personally I probably wouldn't buy in either of those places unless I needed the first time buyer rebate on a new house. Knightswood I would consider, Beaulieu because of the places near it and because commute would be a nightmare I would write off.

    However, both of those developments are built by J.Murphy who have a great reputation and build good houses. The father, Joe Murphy built in Drogheda since the seventies and built my parents estate. The estates look nice and houses are good, so its only the area which would be a consideration.

    I would rent in either of those with no hesitation. My criticisms are based on this being a major life purchase and being stuck there for decades with kids etc. If its just you and where kids will go to school, play with friends etc are not a consideration then it would be grand too.

    Have you looked in the Mornington or Donacarney area?

    Or if your budget is in the 250k bracket have you considered a second hand house in one of the estates on the Dublin road? For 240k you will get something decent in somewhere like five oaks or Grange Rath?


  • Registered Users Posts: 38 WarbossPepe


    Of the two I would say Knightswood (which is in Co Meath) would be better as it is much better for commute to Dublin. I will be buying a house in Drogheda next year, personally I probably wouldn't buy in either of those places unless I needed the first time buyer rebate on a new house. Knightswood I would consider, Beaulieu because of the places near it and because commute would be a nightmare I would write off.

    Yeah hoping to get my own place, first time round so the rebate is the purchasing driver here.

    Mornington looks lovely. I've actually done a retreat in the school out there once. Looked up some homes there but its way out of my price range unfortunately. They do look lovely. All houses look lovely after renting in dublin the past 10 years though 😂

    Thats spot on about the developer. Its the sort of thing i'm a bit clueless about so its good to hear that they've some history worth mentioning.

    Which areas would you be looking to buy in, if the rebates isn't a factor?


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭minzabud


    New builds in Liscorrie handy for Matthews bus, I live on north side of town can get caught out with traffic but usually 10-15mins to get from hospital to the black bull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Have a look at Berford in Duleek. Lovely little village. Would be 5mins further out than Knightswood.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭Mr. Muddle


    Its looking like the knightswood area, or the beaulieu village area. Pretty opposite parts of the town really.

    Beaulieu Village would be a good choice I think, walkable to town for whenever we are able to go out again, a short spin to the beautiful beaches in Termonfeckin and Clogherhead. There is a popular gym Integral, in the Boyne business park nearby.

    There is no better side to Drogheda, we locals always prefer our side never the "FAA side" which can be either side but always the one you don't live in😂. I've lived on both sides so don't know where I stand🀪

    There are areas with more antisocial behaviour, mainly social housing areas where unfortunately like places all over the Country the few make life difficult for the majority of decent people. There is no large social housing near Beaulieu village.

    Murphy builders have been around a long time and have a very good reputation, of course wherever you buy do all the usual surveys etc.

    Traffic crossing the town is not that bad, except for last week when there were roadworks everywhere. It's busy at school times and a few other times but rarely very bad. I cross the town many times a day, you get to know where to avoid and ways around if it is busy.

    If it were me I would visit the areas I'm looking at at different times and days to see what it's really like. The Meath being better than Louth comments made me laugh, this may be more to do with GAA than housing😂


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭John Hutton


    Just to be clear, when I said the "Meath side" most of this area except for the extremities like Grange Rath or Knightswood are in County Louth not Meath (Although St Mary's parish is in the Diocese of Meath, whereas St Peters is in Armagh). So nothing to do with GAA! The Dublin road is the nicest and most affluent area in the town which is why the houses have a considerable premium on the price. But of course its all relative, nicest and most affluent in Drogheda is not like Killiney or something.

    I say this as a Drogheda person myself (who has also lived on both sides!) who likely will not be able to afford a house in the area I'd prefer. As for the locals, a huge amount of the town are blow ins which is good as the town used to be quite insular, except for the fact that a considerable amount of people rarely go into the actual town centre itself but rather go to the retail parks and such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭positron


    i'd like to be close to the gyms in the southwest - i can be fairly lazy at the best of times so ease of travel would help.

    As in SouthWest of the country? If you are looking to travel out of Drogheda, stay to the left of R132 on the map if closer to town. Easy enough to join the M1 (toll or not) and get to anywhere in absolutely no time (although M1 will eventually become like M50, but it was not there yet, pre-covid, although definitely getting there).

    If you want to be able to commute to Dublin etc & want to be in walking distance to pubs etc, Dublin road area is the best imho. If you were to give up one or the other of these requirements, there is so much more choice around Drogheda.

    Best of luck with the move!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭whippet


    I made the move out this direction about 9 years ago from dublin. I rented in the area for 6 months to be sure it was the right move.

    I did the commute to dublin for 4 years and it nearly killed me - sitting on the M1 / M50 was heart breaking .. but for the last 4 years i've been remote working more than 90% of the time so now well settled.

    I'm out the Termonfeckin / Baltray area so do have to suffer traffic a rush hours if I ever need to get across the town.

    As for Gyms - plenty to choose from but in my opinion Boyneside on the quays is the best !


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭JethroC


    I've moved from Dublin to Drogheda only in the last few weeks. Bought a house in Marian Park which is a quiet mature estate on the southside less than 10 mins walk from the town centre (all old houses, no new builds).
    I've had the requirement to travel to Dublin regularly for work and other reasons since moving and have used matthews buses which stop on the Donore Road very close to where I live. Travel time to Dublin (3arena via Port Tunnel or Cathal Brugha Street via Whitehall) is about 35-40 mins and about an hour door to door for work. This is more than can be said for commuting to work while living in some parts of Dublin, although this is travelling during the pandemic so can't comment on what it's normally like.
    Really liking Drogheda so far. Town centre is great and everything you need is there without having to go to the retail parks too often.
    I'm looking forward to trying a few pubs when things get back to some normality...there's a vast amount of them for the size of the place but I'm sure there'll be some that won't re-open due to the multiple lockdowns


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 RobiS


    Hello,

    Can anyone please advise about the place Oldbridge Manor, its a new Estate (end of Rathmullan Road), is it good or bad erea etc, I am considering of moving do Droheda from Dublin. The second option I would consider is Doncarney.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In Drogheda in general, Moneymore and Rathmullan Park are the two 'disadvantaged' areas, but they're like pretty much all other estates nowadays, seen as there's social housing everywhere. The reputation of the estate itself isn't necessarily something worth looking at. What's important is where the specific house you're looking at is, in the estate in general.

    For example, Knockbrack Downs has a worse reputation than Knightswood (both estates are practically next door to each other). Yet I know someone in Knockbrack that's never had a minute's hassle, and I know someone in Knightswood that hates the place because of their neighbours.


    Beaulieu Village is not somewhere I'd consider. It's way too far out of the town, and it's positioned in a location that means you run into all the heavy traffic. To get from Beaulieu Village to the M1 (assuming you're happy to pay the toll) you're looking at sitting in what is probably the worst of Drogheda traffic. It's also too far out from town that you'd never randomly just walk into town (it's over a half an hour walk) unless you were specifically going out for a walk.

    (just my opinion though, of course)


    JethroC wrote: »
    Bought a house in Marian Park

    Marian Park is a great spot to live. Like most areas, some places within Marian Park are nicer than others (not so much anti social behaviour or such, but more that some houses are on a busy road, others are tucked away in corners with no traffic nearby).

    RobiS wrote: »
    Can anyone please advise about the place Oldbridge Manor

    As I say above, all estates have good and bad areas. Oldbridge Manor isn't finished and only a handful of the houses are tenanted so far, so it's hard to tell where the good and bad parts are going to be, but in general it seems like a nice area. It's at the edge of the town, and right beside a massive school that creates lots of school-run traffic on a road that, arguably, isn't up to the demand, but for quality of life, it's right beside the boardwalk and the closest house estate to the Oldbridge visitor centre, which is a nice area to go for walking or relaxing on those rare sunny days.


    I'm not sure what's going on in Drogheda at the moment. I keep an eye on the likes of Daft and such, but there doesn't really seem to be much for sale lately at all. You'd normally have a lot more houses for sale than are up at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,774 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    RobiS wrote: »
    Can anyone please advise about the place Oldbridge Manor.
    At €275k for the smallest 3 bed semi's I'd say it's vastly overpriced. You'd get the same in the estate across the road, Riverbank, for €210k or in Highlands for €215k.

    There has been planning permission granted (and then revoked) for 660 houses in the field next to it. I expect this development will go ahead in some form in the near future.

    Edit: actually, looking at PropertypriceRegister I see these houses have been dropped to €246k. Still overpriced IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭gipi


    Scotty # wrote: »
    At €275k for the smallest 3 bed semi's I'd say it's vastly overpriced. You'd get the same in the estate across the road, Riverbank, for €210k or in Highlands for €215k.

    There has been planning permission granted (and then revoked) for 660 houses in the field next to it. I expect this development will go ahead in some form in the near future.

    Edit: actually, looking at PropertypriceRegister I see these houses have been dropped to €246k. Still overpriced IMO.

    The property price register shows the price of new houses ex-VAT, so the price to the punter may not have dropped at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,774 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    gipi wrote: »
    The property price register shows the price of new houses ex-VAT, so the price to the punter may not have dropped at all
    ahh... so that's why they are bizarre figures like €246,696.03. Add on 13.5% and you get €280,000.

    €280,000 for a 3 bed semi that's smaller than 1100 ft on Rathmullen Road is bananas!

    Two sold recently across the road in Riverbank for €205k and €207k. They sold in about a week, I can see now why!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 42 Sophia Petrillo


    Thanks,



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 jackstow


    Hi everybody, I'm on the same boat as many here, considering moving from Swords to Drogheda. I'd have to come to Swords 2 days per week, so commute might not be my biggest concern.

    I'm looking at this development called Avourwen, which is to the south and close to the m1. Any thoughts on this estate or in this area that I should be aware?

    I've a girl at school age, so I'd have to arrange a school nearby, GP, etc. Anything that you can share I'd greatly appreciate it.

    Thank you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭blingrhino


    I Drove from monasterboice to meadowview in Drogheda on sunday at 2pm .

    24 mins ! Absolutely crazy for a journey of 12km.

    i Could have been in Dundalk or Navan quicker.

    Wouldnt live in Drogheda if i got a free house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    There's a crazy amount of traffic lights and pedestrian crossings on that road. In all seriousness there shouldn't be a toll at so many spots around drogheda. You'd do that trip in half the time if you hopped onto the motorway at Monasterboice and off at the Donore Rd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭positron


    Drogheda has a port and a lot of heavy traffic access it right thru the town.

    Inbound traffic from Dublin road backups often because the traffic turning right to Shop St / Termonfeckin etc blocks traffic that wants to go straight thru as well.

    Walking along Dublin road up to Black Bull is horrible with all the heavy trucks thundering by.

    Traffic coming into town from Trinity st also gets backed up like crazy.

    Town is completely neglected from traffic point of view. A separate access road to the port would be nice.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10 mcfa


    Hi @jackstow did you end up moving to Avourwen? I was looking into buying in the development myself, but Bryanstown Wood is also on my radar at the moment.

    Anyone living in either of those?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 jackstow


    Hey, sorry for the late reply. I did book a property there and have been considering other options in the meantime while I wait for the contract and everything. So far, I did not find anything better, all other developments around dublin are much more expensive. There will be another up in north drogheda, ballymakeny park, which is also on my radar, properties in there seems better, but it is too far from amenities, shops, city center and train station, whereas in Avourwen you can have access to all of it within walking distance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10 mcfa


    Hi, thanks for replying. I actually ended up booking in Bryanstown wood. For what I can tell the south side is indeed more convenient than the north. I really liked the houses in newtown wood but the northern location made us choose Bryanstown wood. We preferred the house there to Avourwen.

    good luck to you ☺️



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Vernian


    I've noticed this chain started in 2020, but since the last response was about 6 weeks ago, I'm going to give it a try :-)

    My husband and I are moving from London (UK) to Ireland and are seriously considering Drogheda. I work in IT so will likely be doing part time remote buy a day or 2 a week in Dublin.

    Everyone has talked about commuting as if you;d have to drive. Are there any issues with taking the train to Dublin and back instead?

    My parents will be moving to be closer to us and we'd love to get 2 houses that are if not right next to eachother, then within easy walking distance so I can check in on them daily. We're considering that area east of the hospital. I think the area name is Newfoundwells. We don't have children so schools are not an issue. Can anyone give me an idea of what kind of neighborhood that is?

    thanks!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,618 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Termonfeckin Road area has some nice estates.

    West Court, College Rise, Harmony Heights etc.

    Mostly owner occupied.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    Do you have kids? If so, what ages?

    How many bedrooms do you need? What is your budget? What is your parents' budget?

    Getting two houses very close by might be difficult unless in a new build estate.

    Commuting by train to Dublin is easy but your preferred location is on the other side of town from the train station so you couldn't walk there and there are daily parking fees.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 Skyte


    What about the buses that run through town every 30 mins, they can take you to and from the train station? Are they reliable enough? Not from drogheda its a question.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭positron


    These bus routes are fairly new in Drogheda and I haven't heard anything good/bad about them - but there's some traffic crossing the river during peak hours and I can't imagine how buses could bypass the congestion (there are no dedicated bus lanes).

    There are plans for thousands of new homes in the north of Drogheda, so perhaps there will be newer / better / bolder solutions to the congestion in future, I hope.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Barna77


    I take the bus to the station in the mornings and they are fine, never had any issue with them.

    The way back home in the evenings though, that's a different story. Traffic is brutal outside the station. I get to Drogheda around 6pm (Irish Rail permitting) and I walk home rather than wait a lifetime for the bus.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 rabc365


    Hi I am looking into moving to the south side of Drogheda, close to the train station

    Would it be possible to commute by car, I work in the city center beside merrion square, If leaving by near 6 in the morning ?

    If not the bus eireann 100x appears too be the quickest journey time, how reliable are the bus journey times for bus eireann and matthews



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16 drogcam


    The 100x from my experience isn't very reliable. It's rarely on time at the Drogheda depot. Depending on where you want to move on the south side the Matthews bus could be a better option. There's a stop on the south side on the Donore Road and the Bettystown Matthews bus starts from Grange Rath just off the Dublin road at Southgate Shopping. Best option for you would be the bus that goes to UCD (via the port tunnel) which stops at Westland Row.

    https://www.matthews.ie/timetable/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭positron


    My experience is from a few years ago but Matthews coach heading to UCD is not immune to the horrible city centre traffic. It would be quicker to take any Matthews coach that goes via Port Tunnel (to IFSC etc) and to walk across Liffey to Merrion Square.

    You can drive to Dublin of course, but M1 can get very busy but moving that early in the morning. Any later in the day, it will be a lot of stop and go and gridlocks.

    Another option is to get the train to Pearse station. Fingers crossed train options improves with the Dart+ and associated line electrification by 2025.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 ikayp


    Hey everyone, sorry for butting in on this, I'm also looking to buy an apartment in Drogheda so I'm hoping to find some feedback from someone who knows/lives in the area. I'm looking at either Preston's Mill in Wellington Quay, or The Square in Riverbank.


    My question is mostly about the community. I am a single woman and working in healthcare. There will be times I would have to work night shifts so loud and boisterous neighborhood can be a slight dilemma for me although not necessarily a major drawback, it will be one of the things for me to consider; and I'm also hoping to get into an estate where I wouldn't have to worry about my own safety especially when walking home alone at night.. commute is not much of a problem as I'm waiting on a transfer to the local hospital so long commute will be temporary.


    Any inputs will be highly appreciated. Thank you! :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 caesared


    Posting on this very long thread as well. I'm planning on buying a house in the Ballymakenny Park. Is the area good?

    I'd appreciate any thoughts on it. Thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭gipi


    Ballymakenny Park is a brand new area, lots of building going on (will be up to 5k houses when the area is fully completed).

    At the moment, there aren't many facilities there - shops are planned, but I haven't seen any yet

    New ring road will offer a shortcut to the motorway, due to open mid-2024. Until then, you'll have to battle the already busy Crosslanes.

    Can't comment on the houses themselves.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 caesared


    @gipi appreciate a lot your comment, I just bought a house in the development. It seems very nice and however there aren’t much facilities at the moment I really think they will build some stores around as there are a lot of new buildings going on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Drog79


    There are some nice areas around the hospital, walking late at night to either the willows or Preston mill wouldn't be great. Although Preston mill I think is beside a pizza delivery, so people around.

    There is currently a terraced cottage on mell in Drogheda, which would be a short walk through an estate and nice quiet area

    https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/bungalow-11-singleton-cottages-mell-drogheda-co-louth/5579979



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭gipi


    That cottage requires major renovation before it could be habitable. It doesn't have central heating, and previous sale photos showed an outdoor loo (and didn't show any indoors!)

    It's a nice area, it's on a busy road though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Definitely something wrong when they only have 2 pics



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 daanponzio


    I'm planning on buying a house in the Gort Mell, Beside M1 Retail park. Is the area good?

    Many thanks in advance



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    The general area you are in is fine, although it is not really in a defined area what with being a new estate in a green field. I'd consider the pricing to be a bit on the high side, but I'm sure you have done your homework regarding what else is in the area. My only concern would be motorway noise, being so close to the M1.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1 mrox


    I can see that this thread is still going on, so I will jump also with a question. We are thinking of maybe buying a house in Kestrel Manor, and wanted to hear some feedback about the area. We have a 4 year old and both of us work in Dublin. Commute won't be an issue, as anyway at the moment we spend more than an hour going/coming from work in rush hours. I can see that the area has few shops, green areas, schools around so that's perfect. I guess I am asking a feedback from an antisocial perspective.

    Thanks :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Barna77


    Lagan Homes is the developer. Avoid.

    The list of issues in Newtown Wood, also by Lagan, is endless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 daanponzio


    Do you know about the issues, I'm trying to find anyone that had problems with houses.

    The main problem is that all builders have issues as I saw on Facebook, specially Glenveagh,unfortunately, there is no way to escape



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 diabsv009


    Hi, Looking to buy a house on the Ballymakenny road. Not hearing any bad opinion about the area until now generally but wanted to check with anyone who moved there recently. Thanks !!



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