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But they are trying really hard to fix it😂

I got this reply from the WRC. Non payment is seen as an illegal deduction by my reading of it.

Non-Payment of Wages

In accordance with the Payment of Wages Act 1991 non-payment of wages or any deficiency in the amount of wages properly payable by an employer to an employee on any occasion will be regarded as an unlawful deduction from wages unless the deficiency or non-payment is attributable to an error of computation.

In cases of improper deductions from wages or non-payment of wages, an employee may refer a complaint to an Adjudication Officer of the Workplace Relations Commission under the Payment Of Wages Act. The complaint must be made within a period of 6 months beginning on the date of the contravention to which the complaint relates. If the Adjudication Officer is satisfied that there are exceptional circumstances s/he may decide to extend the period for up to a further 6 months

I heard of a colleague who (having switched from ulster bank) provided them with his new sort code and account number.

He hasn't got paid in 3 weeks because they needed an IBAN.

To be fair to this individual, their IT skills would not be the best, and they are close to retirement. They come from a time where you filled in a form and someone in HR or local payroll did the data entry. Many people never have cause to long into pay portal, and the latest version is even more confusing to navigate unless you visit frequently.

It is unfair to assume everyone has the same IT skills as someone who never knew life without a home computer.

That's a cop out answer.

Yeh im really not buying that. There is plenty of help. Colleagues will also help. I know the type of person you are talking about and id bet their lack of "ict skills" isnt their only deficit.

My Dad canbt even use a smart phone. I dont think he has ever sent a text message in his life.

I know lots of older people who get flustered at the thought of having to do anything on the internet. Then scared out of their wits that anything asking them to put in personal details could be some sort of scam.

I know lots of older people now who dont travel out of the country unless they have a relative or someone who can book tickets for them. One old lady even gets the train into Dublin coty center to get one of the few remnaining travel agents to help her when she needs to book a ticket to the UK to visit her sister.

It can be overwhelming for them.

Thats ok if they've never been in a workplace for the past 25 years that has technology as the key tool in use.

There are people in their 40's, 50s and 60's who have worked using technology as a tool for decades at this point yet look for sympathy or to blame someone else when they need to do something with technology.

Looking at wider life, occupations whereby technology wasn't a traditional tool, have been drasticilly changed with technology use also - farming being a key one that comes to mind - everything is online nowadays.

While I appreciate there are lots of people who aren't "good" with technology there are an awful lot of people who only have themselves to blame at this point.

Tbf the original conversation was in relation to a current civil servant. Someone who is in their 70s and needs help with technology absolutely understandable.

A current civil servant assuming they should never have to use technology if they don't want to is a huge difference though. There are plenty of civil servants who use the "not good with technology" line to avoid doing work as much as possible.

Some of you people lack empathy and need to get a grip on reality.

Not all our co-workers are tech savvy.

This individual, though I would rather not go into too much detail, has an acquired brain injury that permits him to carry out basic office administrative tasks, with basic IT skills.

He is 63.

His managers are aware of his limitations.

He has a building full of them usually, unfortunately when we are all remote working...

Then Im sure his managers or you could assist him.

Don't get to stressed about it anyway.