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Irish Cricket 2023

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    14 from the fourth over. The rate is now less than a run a ball, only one wicket down this should be a straightforward enough chase. No need for anything silly or headless heroics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Brilliant 77 from Stirling, just 16 to get 109/3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Cruising, 20 from the 11th…raining boundaries.

    the annoying thing is these scenarios where they get all the plaudits here for the standout performance and rightly so… we have smashed Bangladesh, but the record will show… we lost the series 2-1 against a team we really should be dominating.

    Sterling gone, 77 from 41 brilliant innings.. 64 of those runs were boundaries if my maths is correct.

    we win… 7 wicket victory with 6 overs to spare…Paul Sterling take a bow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Wouldn't say we should be dominating, but Ireland were murdered in all the other games, good to see them performing well today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Good to to get a win in the end, but you get a sense overall that Bangladesh are a good cut above us now in both bowling and batting. The test match will be telling in this regard.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Looks a difficult one for sure, but at least they are getting games in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, they have a chance in Sri Lanka as well, they are a ragged looking mob, destroyed again last night, by a mostly second string New Zealand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    the test being a five day game will examine every facet of our side.

    A 15 man squad. You’d wonder if Malan and Balbernie will make many changes….? Hopefully if new faces come in it’s with improving the selection for the game as opposed to just giving players a game and a chance who traveled out…



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Away from international cricket, Josh Littles first IPL over went for 15, including a first ball 6.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Slightly disappointing debut for Little. Had that really frustrating Irish tendency of bowling one rubbish delivery per over. His second and third overs in particular had 5 excellent deliveries and one hit me for six all.

    He has that xfactor though. This IPL spell could be the making of him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Seen lots of very recognisable names from Australia and England have worse outings. His wicket was a good ball and his last over was very good. It’s a tough gig and as you say should be the better for it. Hope he can retain his place and build on it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 961 ✭✭✭Conchir


    Looking forward to the test tomorrow and the two in Sri Lanka soon. Hopefully we’re competitive, how good would it be for Irish test cricket if it goes to the 5th day with a result possible.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Test match starts in a few hours after an almost 4 year wait.

    Hard to expect much from this particular Irish side though with 9 uncapped players in the squad and 3 of those never actually having played a first class match. A big Bangladesh win would therefore be expected but hopefully a few of the Irish players can stand up and be counted and make a contribution.

    PJ Moor will actually be Ireland's most experienced test player. He has played 8 test matches for Zimbabwe before making the switch to Ireland. No Stirling so Commins will open with McCollum. Not sure if Dockrell plays as he bowls so little these days and is having a poor tour with the bat. Humphreys showed up well in the last T20 and may get the nod with Ben White also having an outside chance depending on the pitch.

    Ireland squad (probable): 1 Murray Commins, 2 James McCollum, 3 Andy Balbirnie, 4 Harry Tector, 5 PJ Moor, 6 Curtis Campher, 7 Lorcan Tucker (wk), 8 Mark Adair, 9 Andy McBrine, 10 Graham Hume, 11 Matthew Humphreys



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    100 up for Ireland. Excellent partnership between Tector and Campher so far. Have had to work really hard and have played some nice shots too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    is this on tv?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    No, it on a thing called Clubber TV. Never heard of it until yesterday. Irish sports streaming site. Various options I went game pass is €4.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,214 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Moved on from 123 - 3

    To 126-6

    That went downhill very quickly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    You can't really blame the batting today. Most of the players haven't played red ball cricket for 2 years, so obviously it's going to be hard to get into that mind set. But in saying that the coaching staff really need to work on this cross format habit of 3 wickets falling in 4/5 overs. At 120/3, with two set batsmen, things were going really well. Then out of nowhere 20 mins later its 125/6. It happens time after time regardless of the format. It has to be down to this attacking game Malan wants to play. Whatever happened to consolidate for a few overs? Moor's dismissal sounds like a T20 shot, not a guy five balls into a test match. It's very frustrating

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Doing OK at 203/8, would be real trouble without the outstanding coverage from RTE, Shane Lowry looking forward to the masters Luke Shaw signs with Man Utd until 2027, Fergal O'Brien plodding away trying to qualify for the Crucible, what's cricket?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Considering we were 159/7 where you’d expect a top total of around 190, to get to 214/8 now and still batting is a reasonable recovery of sorts. Be great to make 240 plus..think we’ll need to.

    thus far Tector the only player to make a half century, that’s a concern.

    Adair gone as I type, 9 down.

    214 runs scored in 76.3 overs.

    2.8 runs an over.

    remember it’s a newish format for Ireland but the majority play or have played 4 day cricket for their county or club team.

    214 all out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Not a complete disaster but not great either. A couple more solid partnerships and we might have got 250-300, which would be decent. I suppose on the plus side, we have about an hour? to bowl at them, before end of day. If we can bag a couple of wickets, it'd be a good day overall.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    RTE Sport? Most of them are GAA heads with a passing knowledge of golf, rugby & soccer. Other than that, they spoof about the rest on slower news days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Yeah still in the balance but by my reckoning there are 10 overs left…. Need a wicket or two, to set the tone as much as to get stuck into their lineup...

    a good recovery, let’s see if the bowlers can stand up and take wickets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Adair takes a wicket in the first over, great start 😎

    bowls Shanto.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    McBrine takes a wicket with the last ball of the days play. 😁. The dangerous Iqbal gone, caught by Adair. Finish on 34/2. Nice bit of momentum heading into tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Well that ended up nicely!

    This what I expected from the tour, a competitive Ireland. Yes Bangladesh have had the better day, but Ireland competed and are still very much in the game after day 1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Huge wicket off the last ball, Tamim is a great player, Bangladesh 34/2, 180 behind, good stuff from Ireland



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,821 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Best day of the tour so far. When it comes to tests I'm just happy if we don't get embarrassed



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Too many boundaries, they just can't build any pressure. I'd say 60% of the overs have had at least one boundary.

    Campher is the ultimate pressure release bowler. You take a wicket get a new man in and Campher goes and leaks 3 boundaries in the next over. He's the same in ODIs, he has one 16/18 run over in him every game, usually at a crucial time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Bangladesh have played well - lost those early three wickets but then dug in and built good partnerships. That's test batting isn't it, just stick at the crease. Didn't hear much of the first part of the day, did we put down any chances?

    What are we looking at here? Best scenario is to go through the last four quickly and have a deficit of 150ish. Give them time at wicket and we could end 200-250 behind with near 3 full days of play. Which would require a miracle of extraordinary batting not seen before from an Irish team or the weather to escape defeat here!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭TipsyMcStagge


    7 down now hopefully we can get the last 3 ASAP and start with a deficit of 150 or so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    McBrine has 4 wickets and White 1. Their spinners must be licking their lips :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Michelle for McBrine. Well bowled.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    They did pretty well in the end. Fully expected a score of 450+.

    Th nightmare situation now is being left with 15-16 overs to bat and ending the day 3 or 4 down!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Yep, needs to be a lot of concentration and lets hope the openers can bat through to close of play. Good old hill to climb with 3 days left. We'd want to be putting up about 450...........



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    We are behind 155 runs after the first innings... as I expected our first innings wasn't near good enough. 214 all out...

    Only thing getting us out of this.. will be bad weather ...

    We won't be of the ability to set a challenging target here would be my thinking..

    Yep...Not 2 overs done and already 1 down..

    McCollum lbw.. first ball... ffs



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter




  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭TipsyMcStagge


    10/3 good night Irene



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Clueless again, rabbits in the headlights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    14/4

    Outrageously bad... looks like an innings defeat could be on the cards...

    Not winning from here.

    12 overs gone

    4 wickets down

    1.4 is the run rate

    Not a single batsman in double figures

    .... vs Bangladesh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Hate having to go looking up the lowest test innings scores whenever Ireland bat in their second innings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    3 overs went by in a row and not a single run scored.. 19/4.. after 14 :o



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well the openers needed to stone wall through to close. Looks like we had the wrong openers though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    They certainly did that.

    20.0 and 30.3 the strike rates.

    either way, outside of a freak weather event, there is probably no saving this test.

    of the 4 fixtures we just picked up the one victory, the consolation third T20 win.

    No doubt we’ll be forced to listen to Balbernie talk up the positives of this tour….

    ” it was very successful “

    ” the experience will stand to the lads “

    ” we were very competitive “

    ” a bit better luck here and there and we might have…“

    ”wait, win, you wanted us to win ? “



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    That was the most predicable close to a day you'll ever see in test cricket.

    In their defense CI threw them to the wolves. These batsmen haven't played first class cricket in 2 years. They have absolutely no clue of the format. They don't have defensive mindsets, they can't just dig in and block, they've never ever had to bat out a full days play. It doesn't help that the coach thinks he has a team of Stokes and Butlers that can blast their way out.

    Ireland can't play spin for 10 years now and no effort seems to have been made to fix this issue.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    It's not a T20. It's test match cricket, If 15 overs went by without a run tonight that wouldn't be an issue. Wickets matter not run rates!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Whats this vs Bangladesh thing? Last week you said we should be dominating them! Bangladesh are a very good team these days. Shakib is the best all rounder in world cricket. Much better teams than Ireland struggle over here!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    They are a reasonably good team…. But that doesn’t mean we fall on our arses like we are so far.

    are they so good we should be facing the possibility / probability of an innings defeat by them ? Really ?

    we certainly should be looking to dominate. The very question of it alludes to the issue of Irish cricket and just being delighted to be competing, delighted to be there, as opposed to demanding to be competitive and demanding performances, improvements and results. This isn’t good enough….scoring at 1.5 runs an over and 27 runs scored and 4 wickets lost in 17 overs. PJ Moor scraping into double figures, our only batsman to do so. He’s 10*

    My worry tomorrow morning is a couple of early wickets and the house of cards comes down, 90 all out or something equally as embarrassing…

    That many overs remaining there was no benefit in having a ‘just block’ mindset.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    But the runs were immaterial when we went into bat with 16 overs to see out the day. We lost 4 wickets in 6 overs to spin before we arrived at a pair that could hold it together for 10 overs. If we had scored 0 and defended out the day, we'd be in a much better place. That's what openers in a test match are supposed to do when put in to bat at the close of day. Just stay there and the runs will come eventually. Harry Tector seems to be capable in this role at this level. As it is, likely the match will be over by breakfast time here tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Now your lack of test match watching experience is showing!!

    If we scored at 1.5 an over and made the close at 27/0 or 27/1 even, that would have been an excellent last hour for Ireland. They could have went at 4 an over and 67/4 wouldn't have us any better off!

    There was nothing to gain from that session for Ireland and everything to lose. Unfortunately they lost.

    The openers didn't know how to grind out time and now we're in a huge hole. Tector and Moor did what was needed and fought to stay not out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Well I've been watching tests since late 80s. So that debunks your hokey from the get go :)

    If ireland go out there with a positive attitude and not an attitude that's only appropriate if say 6 overs are left... if they are positive and put the opposition on the back foot ... play positively and with initiative and good judgement... that score looks a lot different. :)

    They'd gained if they'd only conceded one wicket and scored a respectable number of runs..

    Post edited by Strumms on


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