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Simple, balanced workouts

  • 03-04-2023 1:52pm
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    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Lately I have been re-engaging with the writings of US coach Dan John.

    There is a lot of wisdom in his movement pattern based approach to programming resistance training workouts for strength, hypertrophy and general wellbeing.

    Approaching it from this point of view means that, at the very least, all the fundamental human movement patterns are present in your workout. In theory, although it is probably not going to be specific enough to address weak points or develop either advanced strength or a really top-class physique, it should "do no harm" and represent a pretty accessible and generally sound way to program workouts on an ongoing basis. Dan also makes the point that even if this way of training is only 70% optimal, for the sake of argument, then if you were to do it over 20+ years then no one could argue that you are not going to reap such a general dividend in terms of health and strength, whether it's optimal or not is beside the point.

    While he has written multiple articles, books and programs for sale on the topic, my distillation of it is as follows:

    1. Train 3-5 times per week, for no more than 1 hour
    2. Warm-up however you like to raise internal temperature, whether that's a circuit, row, skip etc.
    3. Each workout should contain a pushing movement, a pulling movement, a squatting movement, a hinging movement and a loaded carry*.
    4. Volume should be approximately 2-3 work sets per movement. Warm-up sets preceding the work sets are up to you.
    5. Intensity on barbell compound movements, if you select them for one or more of the movement patterns, should have you leaving one or more reps in the tank, and focus on weight and rep progression without training in such a way that you are picking up niggling injuries or feeling ground down. Keep bar speed smooth and fast, no grinding reps. When you stall on a compound lift for a given movement pattern, switch to something else.
    6. Avoid the temptation to include too much isolation work on top of the above.**
    7. Train whole body for simplicity's sake***

    *Movement patterns and exercise selection examples

    Pushing movement: Bench press, floor press, military press, incline bench, decline bench, DB and KB variations of same.

    Pulling movement: Conventional barbell row, Pendlay row, inverted row, DB and KB variations of same. Inverted row, ring row, TRX row, pull-up, chin-up, band-assisted pull-ups and chin-ups, rack chins, pull-downs (various grips).

    Squat movement: Back squat, front squat, safety bar squat, goblet squat, belt squat, quad-dominant leg press, hack squat, any unilateral squat variation like split squat, Bulgarian split squat, lunges. A trap bar deadlift could be used here IF you can perform it in a quad-dominant manner, perhaps with heels elevated.

    Hinge movement: Deadlift, trap bar deadlift, good morning, Romanian deadlift, single leg deadlift, rack pull, back extension, KB swing, KB snatch, hip thrust, hip bridge.

    Loaded carries: Suitcase carry, waiter carry, sandbag carry, any kind of carry really, and potentially sled drags or pushes could be here.

    **Isolation work

    If you want to include additional isolation work, such as direct arm training for the biceps and triceps, or something targeting a specific area like shoulders, traps or neck, train it intensively but keep it to 2 sets, and don't let it interfere with the main exercises.

    ***Whole body

    When training whole body then you can either repeat the same workout until you stop progressing on main lifts, or set up alternating A and B days. If setting up alternating A and B days then have a vertical push and horizontal pull on A day, and horizontal push and vertical pull on B day. If you just want to repeat the same workout then when you eventually do stall on something like a horizontal pushing movement like bench, replace it with a vertical push like military press next time around.

    I'm editing out any discussion of upper / lower as judging by a PM I received it was just complicating matters. Let's just focus on this as a whole body approach, Dan's preference also.

    Post edited by Black Sheep on


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I'm a big fan of this style of training, I think that's obvious from some of my postings here (Preference for simple workouts, fan of loaded carries, etc).

    Strength is only a partial focus,vso only strength train 2 times a week. And reduce it to 6 main movement variations.

    • H Push, H Pull, Hip/Hinge, and
    • V Push, V Pull, Quad/Squat variant
    • + 1 additional lift were workout (A carry, assistance lift, etc)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭dashoonage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Rogue V in there. Should say “so only strength train…”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    How the **** did i not pick that up..... Jesus christ i need to go have a long chat with myself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Patsy167




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I try to vary it but fundamentally it breaks down into low carries and high carries. I try to do both each week.

    Low = farmer’s walk, suitcase carry, kettlebell walks. - go heavy on these

    High carry - kettlebell overhead, waiters carry, rack carry


    They are all good. Including strongman style torso carry of heavy bag



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    The two basic carry approaches I've been using in recent times (One or other, not both)-

    1. One sided carry, 40-50% bodyweight ... 60 seconds per hand, then switch over. Rest, then repeat. Good for general health and stability, bit of grip endurance and if you believe in it then possibly good for posture and stability. If doing this no one should be hunched over and completely skewed, if you are, you've gone too heavy. Equally, it shouldn't feel like you're just carrying a light bag of shopping around. I like to feel the offside torso really stabilising.

    2. 50% bodyweight in each hand (Yes, total weight carried is your bodyweight). For this I tend to distance for time, rather than the timed sets mentioned above, because that facilitates the reality that depending on the day you might be putting the weights down and taking small rests more. I've gone heavier, up to twice bodyweight, but that really curtails carry times and I don't think it's as good overall because of the drawbacks in terms of how your form becomes compromised... You are tempted to sort of scuttle and if it's at the end of a workout and you're tired there's a small bit of risk associated.

    Post edited by Black Sheep on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I think working up to BW per hand is reasonable. As long as you progress to that point slowly and movement quality isn’t breaking down.

    Need to have solid strength backing up the movement. Not just scrambling along



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