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WWE Raw Superthread

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    #1952
    Tom1991
    Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭Tom1991


    Im the typical blow in fan, but i pop back into wrestling when i see interesting things bubble up.The Cody Rhodes and general arc of things was enough to have my gf even interested in the run from the rumble to mania.

    Wed been watching a few of the wrestling biographies the last while too and were pretty hyped going into Mania Night two.

    Then get told to eat **** and Brock Lesnar giving the double middle finger sums it up nicely.

    Infuriating as every now and again u get these flickers of great stories like HBK and taker especially the run up to the second match , or punk leaving through the crowd with the title that make ya buy in to the novelty again.

    A shame as u felt they were on the cusp of something great kicking off an era again.



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    #1953
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,938 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Since HHH has been in charge of creative, the TV ratings are up and attendance is up and the general mood around wwe has been so much better than it had been in years and Michael Cole sounded like someone released from prison, and they had a perfect story with Cody, and it seems Vince couldn’t handle that and went nuclear and we had a terrible night 2, and then last night. This is a rhetorical question but doesn’t Vince not see how much he’s hurting the company his father built ?



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    #1954
    Angron
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    I think it's at least a bit of he's been there so long that he can't stand the idea that someone could be successful without him.



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    #1955
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    I was hopeful that a new ownership might allow employees a route to ousting Vince if things get too horrible, but the more I look at the details, the less optimistic I become.

    Vince will be the largest individual stakeholder in the new company (owning 19% of stock), and start off with a razor-thin minority at board level (6:5). I still need to find out specifics of who can appoint board members.

    All initial signs are however pointing to a very bleak outlook, i.e., the booking can be as awful as ever, the ratings can tank, morale can plummet: Vince is back firmly in control of WWE, and will be going nowhere in the near future.



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    #1956
    Angron
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    https://pastebin.com/xtCPe52H

    Doing that just after a meeting to reassure talent it wouldn't be what happened, no wonder morale would be shot.



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    #1957
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,477 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Thing is, Vince is bullet proof from taking flak if ratings do start to decline again as he has a handy human shield in HHH who is technically the guy in charge of Creative... It's all a pile of shite tbh. Hope Kross didn't return his bondage style armor from his last run under Vincent.



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    #1958
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


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    He’s back baby.



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    #1959
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Not even sure where to post this, but I guess it’s mostly Raw news.


    per Fightful…

    • Nick Khan and HHH told talent during the evening meeting of all staff that nothing would be changing, and minutes later Triple H did an on-screen promo saying much of the same.
    • McMahon came along right before the show started, after the WWE led meeting saying nothing would change, and then he went and changed quite a bit. He was also in Gorilla all night after WWE told many sources HHH would be there.
    • Several talent said they didn't even think the changes were creatively bad, but the entire dishonesty of the situation what was bothering them the most.
    • Omos was in catering, and wasn't planning on wrestling, then there was a change and there was a rush to make sure he had gear to compete in. 
    • Cody talking on a phone backstage and LWO intervention with Bad Bunny but both of those were scrapped by Vince 
    • Important people in the company had no idea Vince was showing up to make changes. And they have no idea what his plans are for Smackdown on Friday in Portland




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    #1960
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,820 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Added to this Rollins segment was changed as late as him entering the ring. A ringside producer informed him his segment was essentially cut.

    Rollins is not happy about how it played out.



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    #1961
    Angron
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120441227#Comment_120441227

    Fecking hell, I sure as hell wouldn't be happy either.



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    #1962
    CastorTroy
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    What is even the point of HHH being head of creative when Vince has final say? Doesn't sound like he's head of anything.



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    #1963
    Itssoeasy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120441996#Comment_120441996

    Not anymore he isn’t. Given the last time they said nothing would change and we know there was, I’d say he’s keeping the head down. Like it said in that fightful report, whether Vince is at SmackDown will tell how serious he is.



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    #1964
    PTH2009
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    I'm guessing Brock will be 'suspended' for his actions and be back for a big match ie payday for Saudi in May

    And we thought the last years Raw after Mania was bad



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    #1965
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 86,486 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    How many ppvs is there until Summerslam, I'm guessing Roman vs. Cody will that main event

    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #1966
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,386 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120442153#Comment_120442153

    Saturday, May 6- WWE Backlash San Juan, Puerto Rico

    Saturday, May 27- WWE King and Queen of the Ring, Jeddah Saudi Arabia

    Saturday, July 1- WWE Money in the Bank London

    Saturday, Aug 5- WWE SummerSlam Detroit



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    #1967
    Angron
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120441996#Comment_120441996

    So Vince can blame HHH for things going balls up.



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    #1968
    Loughc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120443270#Comment_120443270

    Exactly this!



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    #1969
    Cotts72
    Registered Users Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Jaw white is officially ALL ELITE...Sure Vince prefers to 'make' stars than sign them...Omos is proof of that...👀



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    #1970
    Loughc
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120446362#Comment_120446362

    Sad but true. But how long before he becomes just another star in AEW. Their roster is too stacked.



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    #1971
    Cotts72
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    That's very true,he's going no where near the world title and probably a step above the title below but shame WWE didn't take a punt



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    #1972
    Itssoeasy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120446699#Comment_120446699

    And that’s something that AEW will have to address at some point, as they can’t keep signing people. It’s not sustainable.



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    #1973
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 86,486 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    What reason will Brock give if any tonight on Raw

    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #1974
    Cherry_Cola
    Registered Users Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    It's across the road from me tonight. Heading that direction for lunch now so will be on Vince watch 😂



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    #1975
    Cotts72
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462421#Comment_120462421

    I'd assume jealousy that he was the first match and Cody main evented



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    #1976
    JP Liz V1
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462900#Comment_120462900

    Roman also main evented but not attacked, Cody won the rumble like Brock the previous year

    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #1977
    PTH2009
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462421#Comment_120462421
    https://youtu.be/a5ih_TQWqCA

    Seems about right

    Phase 1- Attack Cody

    Phase 2- ?

    Phase 3- Brock vs Cody



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    #1978
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Yikes, no comments about Raw 😳 Not encouraging me to look up much beyond whatever clips hit my Reddit timeline,



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    #1979
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Thought it was a decent Raw tbh. Better than the Mania one for sure. Lot of travel issues so the show felt a little light.

    Trish turn was to be expected but think it could lead to a good programme for sure. Changing the tag titles is the right call anyway.

    The Otis/Alpha/MMM stuff is actually getting over with me, the crowd love Otis too.

    Thought Cody gave a great promo, although not sure he'll beat Brock and wonder what they're going to do with him going forward.

    Damage Ctrl definitely look to be splitting up but having Iyo get some time to shine and be the Number One contender is awesome.

    Bloodline stuff is getting stale, throwing Riddle into the mix and having matches end the same each week isn't going to help.



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    #1980
    hynesie08
    Registered Users Posts: 9,790 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464775#Comment_120464775

    It's the Tuesday after a 4 day weekend, people have jobs. But yeah, sets up the card for backlash nicely, but nothing go out of your way to see.


    Cody still over as fcuk though.



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    #1981
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users Posts: 86,486 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Seriously Shayna and Ronda should be tag champs, Raquel should be pushed as a singles competitor

    Trish vs. Becky for Summerslam?

    https://forumofgames.com/




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