Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Funny thing is that they're making Trump look like he's being politically persecuted which is to his advantage because it'd make him gather much more sympathy votes from the people and make him even more popular amongst the people. Infact a recent poll that was carried out showed that since this Trump indictment thing began, his ratings among voters had increased at an unprecedented rate. I think the democrats just shot themselves in the foot by making Trump look like another Nelson Mandela.

Nelson Mandela certainly seems to be the comparison they have decided to push.

The charges brought seem very weak for a DA to have crossed this Rubicon. You have to imagine this will all make the likes of the Clintons and Hunter Biden very nervous. Any local Republican county DA who can get a grand jury to support charges will be scouring their statute books for charges. Given that plenty of counties are almost 100% Republican this could open up tit for tat charges by any DA wanting to increase his profile, after all DA's are generally politicians in the US.

I don’t get why people think this shouldn’t be brought to courts, Trump should not be above the law despite what he thinks. If Hunter Biden did something he should be charged, mentioning him like it’s some sort of shield to trump is very odd

Then why oh why would everyone on the CNN panel last night we crying into their Cornflakes. One guy say '' I'm so disappointed that there is not more in this indictment '' Which in itself is a very telling statement, why would someone say those words, he was openly expressing he wanted President Trump to have more charges. That right there is hatred, mask totally dropped, and it confirms there was nothing in this indictment, that the case should never have been brought.

Can you cite this poll?

The indictment might boost his chances of securing the Republican nomination but is not likely to enhance his position in the presidential election itself.

Everyone was crying into their cornflakes? Really? Come on. They are disappointed that even more hasn't been brought because everyone and the dog know that Trump is into some dodgy stuff. Hell, just look at his charity and Trump University.

So it is somewhat annoying that he continues to seemingly evade the full extent of his dealings. People were upset that Capone was done for tax evasion when everyone knew he had far bigger issues. I feel the same way. Where is the case about the Georgia vote fraud? What about Jan 6th charges? But this is movement, and you can see from Trumps demeanour, both in the court and most tellingly in the press conference later, that Trump knows this is serious. If this was nothing then Trump would have been dancing a jig in Florida, claiming that it would be nothing and that he wasn't in the least bit worried.

That is his MO. He comes out defiant. But not yesterday. Yesterday he acted like a man that knew he was in serious trouble.

Trump thought he was bullet proof. First when he was POTUS, and now because he is the GOP frontrunner. He thought he was above the law. Yesterday, regardless of the outcome of this case, he knows that that is no longer true. I doubt he is overly worried about these particular charges but he knows this opens the door for more serious cases coming down the tracks.

One point of the charges is to break the ice with regard to Trump's supposed presidential immunity from prosecution. When the other offences he's accused of in other US states come to court, there wont be so much bleating from him. The main witness of his attempt to corrupt the election in Georgia and deny the voters there the result they decided on will be a Republican office-holder, with former members of his crew he appointed to political posts having already provided testimony against him where it comes to what he said over the infamous phone conversation.

One other thing when it comes to the Republican Party insistence that the charges against Trump are grounded in politics and not legal is that if they win with their claim, it will sink any charges attempts they make against Biden and his family members on the same basis & give Biden a generic immunity.

Trump's bleating every day about those in charge of the legal charges and trials against him, despite being advised against it, has danger for him and the party he represents, given that not all the state and DOJ lawyers, prosecutors and judges, let alone jury members, are democrats or liberals rushing to judgement on him. He has persuaded Republicans to be nay-voters against him, should he get to run as the party nominee in the next election.

Wait till she finds out Jesus Christ was a Jew.

I hope you know that even Trump can contest from jail if he's convicted? That's exactly what he's even praying for. However he pleads his sentence will still fall to his favor. I really don't have time not energy to expatiate. Secondly, you say it's law enforcement. I laugh. It shows you're probably politically naive. Haven't you wondered why this indictment came up by this time when he was heating up his campaign for the presidency? This was a case that had been dormant since 2015, a year before his election into power. I won't go into deeper details on the conspiracy. But Trump actually turned himself in deliberately because he smelt the opportunity to rack up his ratings and that is exactly what this has done for him. Lol

You are not being asked to defend slavery, just to defend your statement/point of view!

I think this is a bit naive. The GOP are happy to have one rule for them and another for the Dems. Remember when they said a democratic president couldn't elect a new Supreme Court judge close to an election but had no problem doing it themselves when they elected kavanaugh.

Yes, but the boil has to be lanced.

Does the DA have to immediately inform the defence of any witnesses or of their testimony content being produced in future hearings [as in Trumps next hearing in Dec] or can the DA produce either the witness or testimony only on the day catching the defence on the hop? I assume there is no way it would be allowed as part of court legal procedure, as it might provide a basis for mistrial calls from Trumps legal team.

It seems there is speculation about Allen Weisselberg involvement in Trumps financial schemes providing more evidence of further criminal offences committed by his former employer. Trump's firm stopped providing legal services to Weisselberg recently.

The sight of Trump losing it in court and going wild on his defence team along with the DA and the judge would be some image for a courtroom artist to catch on paper for reprint and publication is very tempting.