Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

99% of the arguments here boil down to the individual not understanding that the virus mutates.

And a misunderstanding of the word immunity. Resistance to the disease, not "permanent invulnerability".

In all my life I don’t recall anyone ordering me to get any vaccine ever. Were you dragged into a vaccine centre and pinned down until you were vaccinated? Sources please.

So you can’t provide proof then. Why not just say it?

Are you putting it in quotes, because you can point to a quote from a politician ordering us to get vaccinated?

And if you can't do that - this is a misleading attempt at deception?

Or are you putting it in quotes because they didn't in fact order us to get vaccinated and this is your get out clause when challenged for evidence?

irs no wonder you haven’t had any valid argument in this thread at all. You misunderstand words therefore giving a different meaning to articles you read and what you write. So the only conclusion is that you are here to discredit conspiracy theorists.

Nobody was ordered to get vaccinated. Full stop.

In your original claim you didn't make any reference to travel or hospitality.

You are already shifting the meaning of your sentence when challenged to refer to needing a vaccine for travel or hospitality. That still does not mean anyone was ordered to get vaccinated.

This is a constant tactic, make a statement you cannot stand over and when challenged shift the meaning of your claim.

Which meant what exactly? So you could invent whatever meaning suited your present argument?

So it means nothing. Just semantic games.

So when you wrote people were "ordered" to get vaccinated you didn't actually mean people were ordered to get vaccinated.

By your own admission, your words are not to be taken at face value.

I think it's reasonable for readers of the thread to conclude posts made on such basis are without merit.

Instead of debating the substance of the position, we discuss the meaning of words in quotes. Pointless.

Aren’t these usually the kind of people who likes to invoke 1984?

This thread had individuals losing their minds that we were living in "tyranny" because we had to wear a paper mask during a pandemic, or could get a free jab that could potentially save our lives.

I can see they are already trying to rewrite history. All 6 of them. There's no known cure for fanaticism.

As always, this bizarre theme in the thread that there is some "scam" or "swindle" or "fooling" going on.

It's not 2020, with a new unknown disease spreading rapidly, no vaccines and national health systems under threat. The pandemic is largely over, the vast majority of people are vaccinated, most older and at risk people are boosted.

There is no evidence other vaccines such as pfizer need to be withdrawn and one of the reasons to withdraw AZ is that safer and effective alternatives can be recommended.

Use of the word hopefully suggests your position against vaccines to be one without regard to evidence or consequences of not having vaccines available ie not an evidence based one.