Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Can they work up to 20 hours and keep state benefits and accommodation supplied to them?

The excuses for the fighting in these places is worrying too.

Heard in radio one person defend the fighting cause was load of men in one place. See another say its over Ramadan.

Thr irony is that if a culture or two cant get on what hope for "Multi" Culture.

It does not worry me if we have 50 thousand come in or 50 million, if people could get along and make country better.

You now have Finland to list of countries that has a Centre Right Government. Denmark want to stop asylum seekers full stop. Google all this as you like.

If its been a disaster there what hope have we?

We need Migration. I don't care if they are not doctors or engineers if they want work in low pay jobs to better their lives and for family I'm all for it.

But I read stories everyday on local papers and it's crazy the % that seem contributing nothing but trouble.

We need to seriously consider who we bring in and get much tougher on people taking the compete and utter piss.

Is it not about providing them with refuge from war / fear of death?

It would be good to get clear data on the numbers working etc. Doesn't seem to be available anywhere.

Bit torn on the work piece myself, I do understand why they should work, but think they should be granted asulym at that point. And we need to focus on speeding up that decision

Its understandable how you have fights when 200 people all arrive at once and are in cramped spaces together. Giving people seeking refuge the right to work lessens all these fights.

The main problem I have is the length of time it takes to make a decision. However we don't leave people sitting around for years unless either the claim is hard to legitimise or they have been rejected and are appealing.

But tbh, I would rather sit in hotel in a safe country then fear for my life working in a war zone.

What do you mean it's pretty disgusting? I don't throw a hissy fit at arrivals at Australia or Singapore because I am being denied the "dignity of work". I don't see why Ireland owes the entire planet "the dignity of work" . Someone fill me in on what war crime we committed?

I see a real danger in conflating the two.

Trying to better your economic situation and send money home is understandable. If there's work Irish refuse to do then I don't think objections would be that loud.

But is that what "international protection" is about? If it is then it's a misnomer.

It's a fundamental question because there are limitless numbers of people that would trade in their life in Africa for one in Europe.

And yes that would put downward pressure on competing locals.

Allowing asylum seekers to work is encouraging more illegal econmic migrants to come to Ireland, without travel documentation, through the UK & Belfast, or other illegal means.

Think of it. Accomidation provided (ok, shared room, but hey, its free, warm and safe) 3 hot meals a day, medical care, a few quid for essentials, plus 20hrs wages. Sounds ideal for most people, and you could live like this for years and years. If I was a homeless Irish or EU person living here, I'd be ripping up my Identification and claiming asylum. It seems there is an established system to provide for you and protect you. Unlike our homeless and people who are really struggling financially or those living with addictions - these poor folk are made thrawl through our social service systems, applications, waiting lists, interviews, means testing, etc, etc. With no guarentee of getting the support they need to set them back up for life again and allow them to contribute to society.

Just reading the paper, a load of violent asylum seekers have been thrown out of city west. The only way they could get them out was to fake a fire drill and then not let them back in. These violent thugs are free to roam the streets now instead of being deported!!

Noone is defending violence

do you feel we should accept unlimited numbers regardless of the lack of accommodation etc.

Well you seem to be making excuses for it, at every turn.

The interesting thing is despite differing views here I reckon the vast majority have similar opinions

Increase staffing and make quicker decisions

Deport those refused asulym and deport criminals

Refuse entry to those with no passports (exception when brought in by Irish authorities)

Use the above to provide refuge to genuine refugees fleeing war

Dont use social housing stock to house refugees, or if they are treat them like the rest at the back of the queue

Enforce existing EU laws re ability to support ones self