Wokeism of the day *Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users*

It’s funny how red flags not just the email that are the reason now. Surely if there were red flags before, then you wouldn’t offer him the job. Or am I using logic there ?

I really don't get it, they spent a lot of money buying this franchise, but instead of milking it properly and making a lot of money they choose to destroy it. And for whom? Lizzo's fans? Is that their target demographic now?

What a complete load of absolute sh1te.

The moon of Paraquat, more likely!!

They're not a kids company, they are a big entertainment conglomerate, they are a money making enterprise which don't work for the kids, they work for their shareholders. Which makes even less sense.

But they are not alone in this, they are not the only ones destroying sci-fi and fantasy franchises. It's really weird (and frustrating and infuriating) to see it happening, it's like there is a conspiracy to destroy our cultural legacy and I fail to see any good reason on why is it happening. Or maybe there is none, and this is just the result of promoting woke and diverse persons into the decision making roles, and they make decisions not for the shareholders, but for the woke diverse mob. Well, I said it before, our western civilization, just like any extinct civilization from before, will die from within.

Yes it's easy to laugh and dismiss and send me to FO, but the sad truth is that our kids won't have much in the way of heroes and sci-fi and fantasy universes, as we did. But that's alright, they have tiktok.

And as I said, I'm not calling it a conspiracy, but something is happening. They aren't even making proper profit, the latest Star Wars movies were not as successful as the ones before, some of them even came dangerously close to being flops. The insane level woke Star Trek series were so badly received they had to do an 180 with the new ones. So there is at least an element of woke appeasement over profit, you can pretend it's not there but that won't make it go away.

The clip is just the tip of the iceberg. And indeed it's "the standard modern Star Wars stuff", which is sh1te.

As for Lizzo, there's a reason the was a "guest star". And it has nothing to do with talent, because it's clear she has none.

I think it's been more than 10 years when "you should give preference to minority candidates" was said to me, literally, in the exact words I quoted.

Should I understand you're not a fan, or you did not follow the decline of Star Wars since it was acquired by Disney? In any case, the casting choice, the acting, the story and direction sunk to a new low with that scene.

If you really wanted to get the woke angle for Lizzo, you could say it's because she's racist against white fans she doesn't make music for white folk. Well, not her exact words, but in the age of 2023 we can read into words and come up with our own interpretation of them and insist that's exactly what the person who said the words meant:

“The thing is, when a black artist reaches a certain level of popularity, it’s going to be a predominantly white crowd,” the 34-year-old star, born Melissa Viviane Jefferson, told Vanity Fair in its November cover story.

“I am not making music for white people. I am a Black woman, I am making music from my Black experience, for me to heal myself [from] the experience we call life.”

Borderline racist? Maybe. Woke? Shur why not. I do like to point out the capatilised B in black and the lowercase w in white though... No idea if the characters those 2 portrayed were race swapped or anything like that though. Most SW stuff is complete garbage anyway. As I said in another thread, you have the original can't-act trilogy, the trilogy that's so bad no one talks about it, and the recent emo trilogy. The only good live action SW stuff has been Rogue One and Mandalorian. Although I've been told Andor is good so might have to give that a watch at some point.

TBH I wasn't aware of anything she said, or any of her "music" which I don't need to listen to know what it is. The woke part is casting a morbidly obese woman who is proud of her obesity, with no acting talent, into a piss taking role just for the diversity she brings. So they fired Gina Carano for nothing yet they had no problem with a racist actor just because it hapens to be of the right colour.

Andor is quite good, but it's so different from any other Star Wars film or series it may very well be something not from Star Wars universe.

They were not woke, they were, for lack of better word, progressive. Woke is regressive.

Star Trek and Star Wars have survived for 50 something years and they will continue to do so if they are not completely killed. They are part of western civilization's cultural legacy, which also include the works of JK Rowling.

It won't be the free speech, it will be the erosion of values that include free speech.

They were woke, there’s no getting away from that by using a word that’s literally a synonym for woke - progressive!

aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke

They survived for 50 years because of syndication, and then streaming, which as clearly demonstrated by your original issue will show any old shyte and try to pass it off as content worth watching, because it generates revenue, and if we’re being honest, neither Jack Black nor Lizzo were ever cultural icons to begin with; one’s a never-was actor, the other didn’t have anything else going for her other than promoting herself. Of course they’ll keep going as long as there’s a dollar to be made, but I won’t pretend that they rise to the levels of a cultural legacy when all they ever were was popular culture.

That whole notion you have of “Western civilisations cultural legacy” seems to be entirely based upon your own standards as to what you consider relevant or of any value or meaning, which is why freedom of expression is important, so that others who don’t share your ideas are entitled as you are to express their values and beliefs and so on. It’s a conflicting ideology for Liberals because it means that the people who don’t share their ideas are entitled as they are to express their opinions, which gets right up the noses of people who claim that American popular culture or English culture or whatever cultural identity they are familiar with should be respected above all others, because according to them their cultural values are superior, and they won’t hear a word said against that idea, while maintaining that their interest is in protecting everyones right to freedom of expression.

I believe them… billions wouldn’t.

There’s no difference! They’re the same! Or, to put it in terms you’re probably more familiar with -

I'd see it as a more universal feature of cultural history , not that Western culture (in the arts sense) is superior to say Chinese , but that each broad culture should defend its cultural sources as they have value. The wokies are cultural vandals and would be more inclined to have a Jahr Null approach to culture, ie destroy the old culture, erase it from history and supplant it with their manufactured one cos they think people are programmable