Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

a list witnesses, yes. nothing else about them though

Just the online media sources. The withdrawal of paid-for lawyers from Weisselberg was in the online media last week before MSNBC ran its story. It might be part of the war between media sources trying to unsettle the other party, pun intended.

When you see the Left and Right alike calling this case against Trump as a serious over reach you just know it will be dismissed at first attempt, Bragg has a lot to answer for on this, he acted like Putin in using his power to bring charges against a rival. This is not how the US should be acting, it's so dangerous.

Do you notice that the DAs that trump is targeting in his cases all happen to be people of colour and trump is calling them racist. Your thoughts on that fact?

Cnn Citation?

Again you haven't shown any citation, just your opinion. So it's your opinion that cnn are saying it's a weak case, rather than cnn actually saying it

Seeing as Trump will/may be facing trial in a non-federal court in New York on what are described as misdemeanor charges [34 in number] it's worth noting that while they aren't felony charges, misdemeanor charges - depending on their class - can individually earn a convicted person a locked-up time of between 2 weeks and nearly one year. Trump is facing 34 charges so if he's convicted of a large number and the judge sitting in the court decides the offences committed by Trump are serious enough and is convinced Trump knew in advance that the offences were criminal in nature, there is a fair to middling chance that Trump will spend time residing in a state prison, even if it's only while his legal team launch an appeal and [maybe] get him bailed.

I seen a poll where something like 60% feel its politically motivated and I agree. The problem however for Trump is while many may think this is flimsy in that poll the majority also agreed! Why?

Because while they may feel its soft they want him got on something and you can't blame anyone, the man has spent decades saying FU to the law etc. Its basically Al Capone taxes again!

However from what I have seen and not just in the echo chambers their is really serious stuff coming for him regarding Georgia and another rape case.

Ta for that. It might be worth while knowing if any of his lawyers - given their stated profession - knew enough to see he was engaged in criminal behaviour but did nothing to stop him or advise the court that their client was engaging in criminal offences while they were representing him before the same court. Cohen did prison time for lying to congress about the Russian interference with the 2016 election and his former client.

From 2021: “I will not cease my commitment to law enforcement. I will continue to provide information, testimony, documents and my full cooperation on all ongoing investigations to ensure that others are held responsible for their dirty deeds,” Cohen told reporters outside the New York City federal courthouse after his sentence was officially concluded.

Stewart gives a very good breakdown of why this isn't bigger news. The TV news need a moment, a picture to sell the story.

Trump in an orange jumpsuit would be it. But that didn't happen. Instead all we got was basically a boring legal hearing followed by a wait until December. During which nobody should really comment.

Even Trump knows that, hence the low key and frankly boring speech in Mar y lago afterward.

The TV news need an episode of CSI, but this is real life justice which moves slowly, is boring and procedural.

But while many on the GOP and Trump supporters attempt to claim this is nothing, yet another attack line is gone. He can't claim, well not credibly anyway to anyway but his core supporters, that he is out law and order. That he will 'lock her up'.