Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Maybe you know better, but as far as I'm aware she joined SDs due to their social policies, and to get away from the FG/Tories on bikes approach, I'd say either ticket wouldn't be too hard to get on.

She's certainly a pro sustainability and pro environment candidate, and a rarity amongst those in that she's a farmer and pro-farming too.

Her only sin is that she is a small peasant farmer, and ad the British/capitalists figured out long ago, not many aspire to being a small farmer, and her very success as such might be challenging to other approaches.

She's probably too long term in her thinking and sees the need for our land use to develop and evolve beyond the old industrial systems for social, economic, and environmental reasons.

It's interesting that you chooses to attack her integrity, as I would say that it's probably her USP at the moment as a politician, and leaves her vulnerable too. The fact that she came straight out with her position on the N derogation is an example of that honesty and integrity, that most politicians would shirk.

Depending on the man and his approach, it might be understandable that she wouldn't.

As for sf6 gas, apart from whataboutery, what's the point? That we should also try and develop more sustainable energy infrastructure.

I can't see anyone disagreeing with that.

Mick Wallace when he was elected stated that he was not going to be a traditional politician. He stated he was not going to do anything for the local people that was for the other politicians to do so. He was going to follow national and international agendas. Of course he didn't say this before the election when he was looking for votes.

Holly is sounding more of the cut of this.

It's not being brave. It's not being radical or free thinking. It's two fingers to your electorate.

You've farmer led coops in West Cork. The envy of Ireland. I think Holly's mother was also part of the movement and supplied same. You've some of the lowest nitrates in the country in the waterways. That comes from grazing grass. It's reduced even in the last testing. And this is under a lot of the farmers in derogation in the region. The message and agenda is clear. It's not nitrates in waterways that are the stick to beat ye with. It's methane emissions from the number of stock and derogation is seen as a handy weapon to use against farmers to achieve spreadsheet targets in reducing numbers. Unfortunately Holly has been suckered in on this to follow the sheep and follow the "bigger picture" and achieve goals. Except for every cow being talked about there's a farmer behind it. And that farmer has a vote.

My advice if you have a vote use it. Simple as.

Land abandonment?

See there banning the use of untreated urea in the UK. They started off with trying to ban all urea.

No, all the people who frequent Aughadown branch are nothing but gentlemen

Are ladies even welcome?

Welcome but scarce,

No not inspiring on all fronts, but not doing bad either. The current government have many faults. But they have near fulll employment, have given support towards bills, cut taxes and guided us through a pandemic where we emerged in fine fettle. Too many eggs in the few big tech/pharma basket but what party is going to change that? Housing and health is the biggie each election. None of the parties have a solution. SF are great in opposition and just say no to everything (too much time spent observing the Unionists up North) but have not given any solution to the issues at hand. No party has because there is none. Look, if there was an easy, public supported, vote winning answer they'd all have suggested it.

SF are appealing to those who have nothing and expect everything. I can see why. And they probably deserve a chance as much as anyone. Can they do any worse? Can they do any better?

Grass isn't always greener.....

(I'm just home after 6 pints of delicious Smithwicks. Take my ramblings with that info on board)

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A quick question, I checked the maiden heifers this evening and they were running low in grass. The paddock next to them got urea Saturday for silage and I gave them a piece. Will it do them harm. A bit less than 2bags to the acre.

All over simplistic. Things are a lot more complicated than that, but you would be in line with SF magic money politics. It's not easy for a Govt to supply houses to all who need them for 300,000 a pop. Even if the Govt could/would why then would anyone want to spend THEIR OWN MONEY buying a house?

But its ok to p*ss away euro billions indulging cowboy developers behind the Mica and Urban apartments defect crisis, as well as tax breaks for speculators and vulture funds who then sit on zoned land???.U can also throw in the indulgence by this government of vast amounts of derelict sites across every town and city in the country. The state built a serious amount of houses in the 50's and 60's when we didn't have a pot to p*ss into. We also have a government full of landlord TD's oking open door non-EU emigration at a time of housing crisis - hardly helps does it???