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  • Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Seanmadradubh


    WTF...

    I think he's out of vodka and after finding a bottle of turps...

    One of the most unhinged things I've ever read.




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ^^^ definitely not sober when writing that. Using a word like unter and accusing the Ukrainians of being Nazis. 🤯

    Fukwit



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I can’t remember who or when but there was a post here a while back showing Dragons Teeth installed that had visibly decayed after less than a year exposed to the elements. If the concrete they are using is that piss poor, a tank might crush them during a push through.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭Field east


    Who , in their right mind, would want to negotiate a solution to the conflict with such a di——ad.

    and why should Ukr even think about negotiating with Moscovy if that what it thinks about Ukr.

    God help any individual , country or organisation trying to bring both sides together



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,502 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    It's in English and hits all the major Kremlin talking points:

    1. Poland wants to annex Western Ukraine
    2. Americans would rather the money that is sent to Ukraine be used for domestic spending instead
    3. Despite the fact that the majority of states in Africa and Latin America voted to condemn the Russian annexations, and only Nicaragua voted in favour, this does not reflect the fact that the majority of people in the global South support Russia (somehow).
    4. Russia's future lies with China and India, who will replace the European trade etc.
    5. Ukrainians are basically just misguided Russians
    6. Ukraine is run by Nazis and Zelensky is a corrupt clown

    This is all standard stuff amongst the MAGA types and Russian supporters on twitter who claim to be from outside Russia. They are part of a disinformation campaign which is based on the idea that if you can't get Western people to support Russia's actions directly, the second best option is to water down their support for Ukraine or minimise their criticism of Russia.

    Why Medvedev, why in English, and why now are more interesting questions. I would guess that it is an attempt to activate those people so that they can say "You see, this is what I've been saying all along, and now Medvedev is saying it so it must be true". The Russians fear that the NATO countries may seek to surge weapons and support over the next few weeks with a view to bolstering the offensive which is being mooted for the end of April or early May.

    So it's not unhinged, it's well calculated. It's patently untrue, but the goal isn't to get clued in people to believe it, but to sow doubt in the minds of people with only a causal interest in what happens in Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,824 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    3 and 4 are correct, the other points are Kremlin spin.



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,135 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Bitcoin threadbanned



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,429 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I wonder can we start an alternate view of Russia to counter the projection "don't look at me" spin from the Kremlin?

    1. Russians have allowed themselves get a dictator into power.
    2. This dictator compares his rule of Catherine the great. A ruler of German heritage.
    3. This dictator will use any Russian as cannon fodder but especially the subjects from the disadvantaged areas who cannot bribe the enrolling officers.
    4. This dictator has expansionist views and sees war as a distraction to his disastrous rule of Russia where there is religious strife among Russian Orthadox and Muslim followers.
    5. The economy is built on primary resources and Oligarchs control the industries. Oligarchs which now also have private armies and security forces. Corruption and stealing is seen as normal in Russia.
    6. Putin learned lots while in east Germany. From kidnapping children of politicians to espionage to media controlling the narrative and how it's reported or not.
    7. The Kremlin sees people as pawns on a chess board to be moved around and keeps moving ordinary people to control the population.
    8. Putin is an admirer of the ways that Hitler ruled in wartime. And has used the tactics of the Wehermacht. From the demonisation of your opponents to justify war, to wartime propaganda of Goebbels, to the stealing of children to be raised in Russian doctrine.
    9. This dictatorship rules solely on fear. Expats abroad have learned this to their cost. With killings, hangings, stabbings, poisoning, of those and their families from this dictatorships tentacles.
    10. Russia has many admirers of how Hitler ruled and has white supremacy followers and who would call themselves Nazi even if the Kremlin deny they don't exist.


    Feel free anyone to add more.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Correct, this is a pipeline that is/was intended to go from Melitopol to the port city of Berdiansk. It's not an open trench, it's already laid and covered along most of it's length.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says




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  • Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭pummice



    Its a slow war day so heres a message from Darth

    https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1643879572516093953?s=20



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭jmreire


    History repeating itself after a fashion...when a massive trench and fortification system was built to protect France from a German invasion after the first world war.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Were these notices posted on 1st April?

    So instead of an expected counteroffensive in the south, the Ukrainians are going to swarm the boder to the north and make blitzkrieg run for Moscow?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Who was it who said that would be a 3 day operation, or 10 day day operation? For sure, the Russians had apparently only planned for a short military phase of their plans for Ukraine and did not expect to be bogged down in the Donbas a year later, but which Russian official said these exact words, or was it something being bandied about by talking heads on those ridiculous Russian propaganda shows on their state network?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Well, they were trying to save a few bob on the cement...so instead of 3 to 1, its 9 to one... definitely not the same standard as the US ones in Afghanistan. They will last for many years yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭zv2


    “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” — Voltaire



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    More on the extensive trench network the Russians have built in Ukraine,




    Could well be laying down fiberoptic broadband for the Ukrainans, but we all that's not true 🤣🤣🤣🤣




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Surely trenches are useless? With drones nobody has to worry about elevation or line of sight ?

    Wanna support genocide?Cheer on the murder of women and children?The Ruzzians aren't rapey enough for you? Morally bankrupt cockroaches and islamaphobes , Israel needs your help NOW!!

    http://tinyurl.com/2ksb4ejk


    https://www.btselem.org/



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They still serve a purpose , protection from artillery and if you can't build defensesive walls or burms you go low and build trenches,you can still move men and supplies through trench systems,



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,429 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    This is depressing. Rwanda 1994 all over again. And the western world and EU just stand back and watch Russia do it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Filtering and re-education camps something they have been doing since the invasion,we will eventually hear they were transported to Moscow and put on trial for crimes committed against Russians and sentenced to life in prison



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,429 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Which probably translates as brought to a forest. A big hole dug and bullet to the back of the head.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The West need to come together as a whole and basically give an ultimatum to Russia, leave Ukrainian sovereign territory/cease hostilities/stop committing genocide (phrase it as diplomatically as they want) or else Ukraine will be provided with anything and everything they need/request to defend themselves.

    I'd certainly like to see any money seized to start to be used to purchase arms for Ukraine. It's almost like Russia believes when the war finally ends, things can go back to normal. Russia will get back their seized assets, sanctions dropped etc... It seems lately the political pressure on Russia has lost it's voice.

    Even if there's an eventual end to this war, as long as Russia keeps Ukrainian land, it will just enable the next authoritarian regime to do similar to another country etc...



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,502 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    If it is a single, shallow and clearly visible trench on its own then ite probably not much use. But if its a part of a system of defensive fortifications then it make a bid difference. That pictured trench is a funny one, but given that the Russians have shown that they can build proper defesive lines elsewhere, unless the troops there are all mobilised and have limited training or command, I doubt they would be stupid enough to think thats sufficient.

    As others have said it could be a tank trap or a forward observation post. Potentially it is an attempt to lure in Ukrainian fire and so waste their ammunition. Plenty of reasons to make it beyond it being an ordinary infantry trench.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Wounded Ukrainian soldiers being treated here in Dublin,not something you expect to see too often,





  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    The doctors may as well put those years of ballistic injury experience from gangland crime to good use. I wonder if we'll see any interference from Orwell Rd.



  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    If it's wide enough, you need to bridge it, you can't guarantee that a hit from artillery would crater it sufficiently to allow vehicles to pass without some sort of mechanical intervention... which causes a choke point...

    Bridging it also provides a point of weakness... allow people to cross thinking it's OK .... destroy it an create a no mans land of artillery...

    It might look stupid, but will definitely be difficult to navigate under fire. Only way round it is having fire control which requires longer range weapons.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    It will be a lot less difficult than bridging a river. Premade steel bridges dropped into place will make it easily navigable.

    Of it was supposed to be a tank trap there should be 2-3 drains like it within 100 metres. The advantage of they would be that you would trap tanks and vehicles between the barriers. You could mine the areas in between. Even at that you need defensive positions just behind them.

    Basically it's only a field drain. It's neither a defensive trench or a tank trap IMO

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99




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