Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

You're in Trumpland with that post.

Irish elections are managed and overseen to the highest standard and it's an insult to the many thousands of presiding officers that make our elections tick.

Counting is watched like a hawk by party tallymen (who are typically very experienced) and I have never heard of any election swindles turning up. And tallymen (or women) would be very quick to bring it to light if there was.

Spend a day in a count-centre before commenting on this again. Silly stuff.

Your numbers are a nonsense.

The US, accepts well in excess of the 125k "asylum cap" at its southern border. It's probably about 2 million in the past year.

Policy dictates they are processed at the border and released to continue their claims within the US. They don't by policy deport to places like Venezuela or Nicuaraga (or Cuba for many decades), and these source countries consist of the vast majority of migrants accepted across the border.

The 125k is a complete fudge, and that figure is generally regarded as a target for offshore processing of claims for people from trouble spots in Africa the Middle East or other far away from the American homeland.

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Mother of God. Where to start with that post.

Lol, you're all over the map. An asylum seeker by definition is someone whose case has not yet been determined.

The US has admitted millions of such asylum seekers over the last couple of years - primarily from Venezuela, Cuba and Nicuagra.

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You're so wrong it hurts people's eyes reading your posts. And no, for political reasons Biden has not "clamped down" on asylum seekers from the countries I've mentioned. Just speaking of Cubans alone, by US law, once they touch US soil they are never sent home.

Oh yes they have. Biden explicitly put carve-outs in his legislation for Haitians, Venezuelans, Cubans and Nicuagrans to allow them claim asylum at the southern border. And they've done so by the millions.

If those nationalities show up, they are processed and let on their way.

I love when this happens on boards, someone throws down an anchor on a hilariously wrong point, and they pummel themselves over the head making themselves more wrong with each post.

Great entertainment of a bank holiday monday.

You are claiming that millions have ALREADY entered the US from those countries in the last few years and been granted asylum.

No I didn't, I said asylum seekers and, for the record, so did you (post 3873 and 3875 in case you try to wriggle out of it). And it is factual, millions did enter from those countries and have been given leave to apply for asylum. Legislation also allows for the entry and processing of 30'000 from those countries per month.

Do your homework next time.

Not seeing any links or stats. I googled.

This is a significant increase as it was only 18,000 in 2020.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-refugee-resettlement

Not sure what @Yurt2 is talking about. Wherever @Yurt2 goes civility seems to disappear and insulting language follows.

@Yurt2 I'm not here to insult people. I'd appreciate if you dropped the abuse, it's not funny and adds nothing. In fact, you lower the tone of conversation with your adversarial diatribes. If you went around talking like that in public to random people, I'm sure it wouldn't go in your favour so why do it here, hiding behind a pseudonym? It doesn't make you a big man, just irritating.

I gave two links from the US government. Can you perhaps back up your claims with supporting references?

The US admitted 25500 Asylum Seekers/Refugees in 2022.

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The US are admitting up to 30k a month from southern border applications alone. Do you ever get tired of posting incorrect information? Never mind the millions that have arrived and are now advancing their claims in-country.

Your "83'000" is a conflation of Ukrainians who don't go through the asylum seeking process at all and actual applicants from other countries (many of whom who will not be approved), which is a much smaller number. But you wouldn't want to admit that for the purposes of your arguement which is falling apart in front of your eyes do you?

In the NATO thread you dismissed me as a tankie.

I reported you and was threatened instead by the moderator on reporting your uncivil behaviour. Look at the Russia thread banned users.

This forum is not a place to discuss the war if you want a ceasefire and an end to the carnage. I didn't come off the worse in the other thread, I put forward my view and engaged in the discussion and then left as the vile debasement of dialogue took over. I'm sure you're still there insulting anyone with an opinion that doesn't rely on the lord of the rings.

Back to here, quite happy to accept I'm wrong. According to you there were an extra 360,000 Venezuelans and others accepted giving a total of 360k + 125k refugees accepted in 2022. Grand total of 485k.

All I could find was this.

Appears to be for migrants not refugees, (30k migrants per month), and they appear to require sponsors according to Reuters. I couldn't find the 30k refugees/ asylum seekers per month of which you spoke. Anyway assume your Google skills are better than mine and bow to your superior googling.

Perhaps you could work on your manners next and perhaps elevate them to the level of civilised human.