Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

The 2 euro price is perfectly fine. Its the current price. Yes.

It is influenced by Govt regulation, as are all things.

funny how you're fine with the govt regulating to cap a price, but not so keen if their regulation helps raise a base.

You like Regulation when it suits you, it would seem.

You've no idea what posters views on rent caps are and it's entirely irrelevant.

Posters can be pro-both, anti-both, pro one and not the other all for different reasons.

It was clear your argument had no substance when you ran away from the straightforward €1 - €2 scenario with a nonsensical answer "perfectly fine" so now you have to resort to inventing their opinions on an entirely different subject. As if you couldn't be more wrong already.

I answered your question.

2 euro is the new market price, influenced by Govt regulation amongst other market forces.

Therefore, 2 Euro is the new market price....for now.

That's just pure falsehoods. You literally haven't a clue what a market price is. The fact you keep doubling down on your nonsense is quite hilarious. Question, what other consumer price are fixed by government with a minimum price?

So laughable it's not even worthy of a response

Great response there kid.

Now, back to your cheap cans...off you go.

I wil leave you boys to it now as I dont want to derail the thread.

I know its annoying when that happens.

The market price is always a price set within the parameters of Government regulation.

I know some of you think its unfair, but it is what it is.

Yes, you just confirmed you haven't a clue. Not a literal clue.

Can you point to the exact section of the CAP or any Irish law that sets a minimum price for milk in the shops?

It occurs in the labour market, minimum wage. The majority of American states set a minimum price for tobacco products. That was actually tried in Ireland, but the EU forced us to drop it. Same with France and Austria when they tried it. But the law can be what it wants to be, and the EU court ruled that members states can decide about alcohol. Ireland certainly took advantage of the leeway to apply severe Excise levels on cigarettes.

https://www.tax.ny.gov/pubs_and_bulls/publications/pub-509.htm

https://www.statista.com/statistics/415034/cigarette-prices-across-europe/

You asked this question:

"How many markets does this occur in?"

There is no rule, except the one you are making up. Different practices are not exceptions, they are different practices. General regulations that set a minimum price are just that, regulations that set a minimum price.

You missed this bit in the New York link:

The Cigarette Marketing Standards Act (CMSA) established minimum wholesale and retail selling prices for cigarettes. You may not purchase or sell cigarettes at a price less than the minimum price set by law.

From elsewhere:

The CMSA is enforced by the New York Department of Taxation and Finance.7 Violations of the CMSA incur both civil and criminal penalties. Civil penalties include license suspensions and fines of up to $20,000 for the first violation (both of which may increase for subsequent violations). 8 Violations also constitute a class B misdemeanor, if criminally convicted.

I see our alcohol hating government have brought teetotal Joe Biden to a Louth pub for a speech tonight, a well placed Guinness ad in the background. Is there any other government in the world who regularly drags world leaders to the pub the way Ireland does?

Does that make the alcohol any less expensive in comparison to other countries though?

I was trying to do a comparison between March 2014, and the time just before the deals ceased on the Booze Megathreads after MUP. But it is too much like work, all the different combinations of can/bottle size, and the numbers in a pack. But I got the impression that the prices had not gone up much on the special offers.

The posts below were interesting, from just before Patrick's Day 2014. I can't remember any backlash against the deals, except where the supermarkets were criticized for doing them on Child Benefit Day. Obviously there were even better deals a few years earlier at 50 cents a can.

kn wrote: »

Overall they are not 'great' offers though. I remember it was Tesco that went BOGOF on €24 slabs (circa 50c a can) one Paddy's day 5 or 6 years ago that started the backlash against the supermarket drink offers.

Atlantic Dawn wrote:

Them is the prices of now I am afraid, if I had use of the Delorean I'd be back every Friday evening for a few crates but sadly I don't. Most of the above is below cost price.

From The Irish Times 2012:

'Children's Allowance' drink deal slated

Centra has today apologised for a promotion run in four of its stores, which targeted Child Benefit recipients with offers of…

Brian O'Connell

Tue Jul 3 2012 - 01:00

Centra has today apologised for a promotion run in four of its stores, which targeted Child Benefit recipients with offers of low price alcohol.The company has instructed the stores to withdraw the promotion. The offer entitled 'Children's Allowance Day Deals', prompted widespread criticism and had led to calls for the company to make an apology.

Two alcohol products were included in the offer. A case of Miller beer was promoted for €15, or 75 cents a bottle, while two cases of Budweiser beer were on offer for €25.

This shower of cnuts are at it again.