Unhappy with owning an EV in Ireland

First world problems 😂.

Jaysus a diesel isn’t that bad to drive!

I’ve a 2011 Vauxhall insignia Sri that is incredibly comfortable and I regularly do 350km a day.

Maybe I just know no better though 😂😂

You're obviously not comparing like with like there though...shattered after 200kms in a diesel but fresh as a daisy after 700km in an EV. There must be other factors at work there.

I drive an EV on a daily basis and find it easy to drive of course but I certainly don't get this being shattered by the drone of a diesel engine. I just done a 350km journey in a diesel, most of which was on a motorway, and I arrived completely fresh and unruffled by the nvh of the diesel engine. The majority of the journey was done with car cruising in 6th gear with no audible engine noise. But of course thats my opinion and others may have different experiences.

IMO most of these threads end up with EV drivers advising people they should drive EVs and some ICE drivers responding with reasons why you shouldn't drive an EV as if there is an objectively right and wrong position in every case. I think these arguments are pretty unproductive at this stage.

If you want to drive an EV, they are a brilliant option and far cheaper to run, especially if you can charge at home. But they don't suit everyone and some people simply would prefer to drive an ICE for a while yet for multiple reasons. Personally Ive no problem with that.

I have always considered Diesel cars to be horrible yokes with tractor engines in them. I didn't jump on the bandwagon for chape tax like many people did. When renting a car abroad, I'm often stuck with diesel and I hate it. Such a loud and laggy experience. You don't realise how load until you turn off the engine and realise the radio is nearly on full blast. I nearly cried when I saw the first 320D on the road. That's when I gave up on BMW.

Driving an EV is so much smoother. There really is no argument except from those with no experience.

Now that’s just being silly.

I drive a mixture of EV, petrol and diesel.

Also drive a large van at times and have done for 25 years. Some of them being rough yokes.

I don't get excited about one over the other.

The big vans are awkward to park or manoeuvre etc.

The noise difference is negligible really.

People are trying to make out driving an EV is some sort of new experience when really it's not.

Big difference between a transit and an EV for sure.

But to say "significantly more enjoyable" between a regular ice and an ev, that's just a load of bollox really.

I've no preference, obviously you do, but for me the fundamentals are the same, wheels, doors, boot, radio, windscreen wipers, speed limits, seatbelts, steering wheel etc.

Not really sure what big differences people are seeing after that to make it significantly more enjoyable, a bit quieter maybe but never bothered anybody before, ever.

You didn't disagree with any part of the post you quoted. A petrol, while noisier than an EV is not nearly as noisy as a diesel. Diesel engines just sound horrible and industrial. They don't belong in cars.

Thanks. Riveting and well thought out contribution. One question; what part?

You only see the utility in the vehicle. This is a motoring forum, so there are plenty here who enjoy cars. I love a lot of petrol cars, but I wouldn't go back unless I had to. I would never buy a diesel. I despise them. In my last job, I had a small diesel van and drove about 1000 klms per week. After a couple of hours, I would have a headache from the constant noise of the engine.

For most people, I would say driving an EV is a very different experience and a nice improvement over an ICE vehicle. Better.....not new.

Jesus what a ridiculous post.

Can you not understand that EVs genuinely don’t suit large cohorts of peoples needs nor make financial sense when you go from a debt free car to an expensive EV.

I don’t look at a 55k Tesla as 55k- it’s 700pm repayments. (Approx figures)

This crap of anti ev people objecting to evs because they’re know it alls! I haven’t heard such crap in a long time. Congratulations.

Range anxiety isn’t a problem as long as you spend massive money on a long range ev and put yourself in a large amount of debt if you regularly travel long distances and don’t want to depend on the crappy public infrastructure.

It’s not that hard to understand.

Nope couldn’t care either way and when they become affordable I’ll happily own one.

There seems to be a few on here that get triggered when someone points out an EV is not for everyone despite the oft repeated claim that they are.

I’ll post where I like thanks.

Bizarre post that smacks of insecurity.

I've never met anybody who is "anti-EV"

At the end of the day EV's and ICE are similar in a lot more ways than dissimilar.

Similar: wheels, windows, doors, windscreen wipers, headlights, radio, doors, you need to stick something into them to put fuel in them, pedals, boot, bonnet, very bad for the environment

Dissimilar: no gearbox option on an EV, a bit quieter, better torque if overtaking is your thing, less servicing costs in an EV.

no problem.

So I’m comparing my car which is debt free vs me then having to get an ev which would involve a loan.

If car shat itself in the morning I could pickup a diesel to match my needs for 10k cash or a small loan.