Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

You don't think there are mass amounts of legal migration?

I assume you can provide a link that its 31% less Ukranians remaing here .

The latest UNHCR figure is 77300 and 19731 in DP add to that about 2000 in own accommodation. Links are only to February.

Sour sour yoghurt that's alI I'm seeing here.

PPS numbers have EXPLODED , up 80% year on year.

306,000 PPS numbers issued says it all.

Not my fault immigration won't split out the types of visas issued when they easily could. They definitely correlate with PPS numbers to a large degree though.

Sour yogurt just sits back trying to douse everybody with sourness. Doesn't even find any of his own data or links.

Didn't provide visa numbers..I did.

Didn't provide PPS numbers ...I did.

PPS numbers are the gold standard data we need to reference.

The link is from the DSP and shows yearly figures for those granted pps numbers . You are jumping around about visa issuances.

Not all PPS numbers issued are for immigrants.

Howver it's clear there have been a huge uptick in legal immigration.

You are literally pulling figures out of nowhere and mixing up figures for different things and claiming they are the same thing.

I suggested here yesterday that those heavily critical of refugee policy appear to be conflating our strong net immigration (the so called 'legal' immigration) with the much more modest numbers of refugee arrivals. I've seen stats that for every ten people who move to the state in any given year, only one of them is an asylum seeker or refugee.

*The arrival of Ukrainian people in the last 12 months being the exception to this.

Did you mean family reunification ? I’m presuming you did. Again, asylum seekers granted leave to remain get no automatic family reunification. That applies to people granted protection only [i.e refugees). Leave to remain is not international protection. Once again, could people please understand the terms that they are using ? Makes it much easier to have a debate.

SF want more arriving, a strategic and disingenuous long term move to gain favour and votes. To get an iron grip on the country. To properly tap into the multiple diaspora, the left and their own set.

Labour here are finished, nobody is listening to them..7 Dàil seats out of the 160 are Labour TDs. 4.38%…they mean at this stage practically nothing to the Irish voter… nothing even to the left.

For all the parties we have, there are no reasonable alternatives….nobody is even willing to debate or even recognise the documented concerns of citizens, we who pay them to represent us, our interests and wellbeing... no calling for compromise ? Alternate solutions ?

can a zero policy not be instead a policy to limit the numbers ? Yes there are implications on our EU membership but look, the EU as it stands is fûcked. British gone and Italy next to say bye bye. The core is being ripped from the EU by its policies…. It’s no longer working for the EU citizens. No longer prioritizing its paymasters.

temporary protection is BS… most of us knew this from word go…nothing temporary. A bundle of lies from the get go.

Italy, Greece, Poland and France are according to the bookies to be the next countries out.

I can see the whole thing coming down like a house of cards in the next say 15 years.

get back border control… accept refugees yes… limit them yes.

I don't know if this is real but is seems to be posted in Russian. Very odd.?