Kilkenny GAA Thread

To be fair we have had development days whereby hordes of lads went to trials, north/south type sessions etc but that tells only a portion of the story. If we genuinely wanted to get serious about development squads then @ U13 levels and above all club matches would be attended by a coordinator from a county board development group.

Yes its a big job but you will absolutely get a better flavour of what happens on the ground outside of Dunmore or central sessions. Speaking from seeing some of these trials we are not capturing or nurturing everyone but we depend on the word of the local club man the know.

Of course we get the bulk of the crop but we just dont push the boat out. It needs to be completely impartial and orchestrated without bias towards any club no matter where they are, whether they be down as far as Mooncoin or Slieverue or up as far as Tullaroan or Johnstown. Might sound a bit parochial but we depend on club trainers to give the nod to certain lads but in reality how many times have you heard " how did Johnny get to go up there and not Jimmy"

Weve all heard before about organizing divisional or geographical squads to work towards a central squad. How has this progressed or has it progressed at all in the mindsets of the county board?

The fact that U20 KK management hasn’t made any calls to players they have atrociously dropped since the last match is ridiculous. Talk about going down with the ship. Management have let down players who have worked for so long and dedicated so much time and effort. Dropping players who have worked so hard to get their deserved positions on the team, for reasons so outlandish it’s comical. While every player on that team has worked hard, no doubt, other players that don’t have as much support from their own team or the name to match. The show they put forward was saddening, not for the lack of effort on the players behalf mind your, clearly phones need to be picked up and changes need to be made.

Ciaran Muldowney quit the development squads because he was not getting anywhere. He had a plan which needed time but was not given much of a chance. As regards the u20 panel some poster was giving out yards about Eoghan Lyng being dropped when in actual fact he was injured and played a full game against Wexford last Saturday, I wonder was that poster down in Wexford cheering on Eoghan.

There was a person over the squads for years

a very nice person but he never held a hurl in his hand fairly good with a snooker que

I agree with you about Mooncoin have been at the top table for a while. And no rep. On the team.

Marooned, This is not a dig at Dicksboro, IMO they are doing a fantastic job underage, the club can do know more, winning the last 5 minor A's. It is up to Kilkenny to further develop the better players on these teams and this is simply not happening. I stated previously that Dicksboro were the exception when it came to management. Clara, Callan and Johnstown were well represented on the panel a few weeks back and id be interested to hear how many are still on it. Any decent hurling follower underage knows that some of the lads dropped are at a higher level than some players on the panel, no set up is going to be successful with this carry on, it undermines the whole ethos of successful underage hurling.

Danny Glennon is certainly one who is good enough to start on the U20s. Yes, he had an injury which the county board told him to get sorted. He did and was left off the panel. He is hurling and playing football at the minute so that kind of makes a mockery of the situation.

If you never hurled I could you train someone to hurl

Adam O ‘ Connor from James Stevens is certainly good enough to start on the U20s. Senior hurler of the year in St Kieran’s, Man of the match in U19 A county final last year, currently on senior James Stevens panel, the mind boggles.

Talking to a parent whose son on Celtic team not sure of name but basically a b minor team

had to bring him up to Kieran’s for training

45 min drive young lad had to watch a team who were there also get drinks bars and playing gear they got nothing a team get food after training they got nothing

they won there match in cork

only team to do so the weekend

when they travel if they get food before match they don’t get anything after it

he told me in fairness Pat Hoban was doing his best for them but was up against a brick wall also Barry Joyce training them doing a great job lads love training under him

re squads I was only pointing out that the chap never hurled in his life never played for a team so how he qualified to be over training of young people

I know the chap from snooker I use to travel up to cyms to play him usually beating by him he was good

You need to leave it go about John Walsh at this stage, brilliant hurler for his club and all but I think he was in with the county on 3 separate occasions and just struggled with the training and higher intensity of things in there. He also gone abroad for this year too so Mullinavat will feel his loss for scores.

What I will also add though is his own Clubmate Tom Aylward got shafted off the county panel when he was the 2nd best full back in the county, he never got any chance after coming back from his Cruciate and was just cast aside even when he had a excellent club campaign that year. Thought Ger Malone was unlucky to be dropped off panel around same time.

I agree 100% about Tom Aylward. Outstanding last year v OLG and looked as good as Huh Lawlor. He put in some outstanding displays against us in Senior, we can never beat Mullinavat and we have 6/7 lads in with seniors and were carried for years. Aylward did his cruciate county training.

Yes Danny Glennon has bulked up but hasn't lost the speed you are talking about. He was absolutely excellent at minor for Tullogher and one of the reasons they fell just short of beating Dicksboro on the day in the county final. As with any player when they take the step up to adult hurling you wont have it all your own was as you would have underage but he was still clinical for Tullogher last year. The point i was trying to make is that we dont have many better forwards at U20 in the county and he absolutely should be there. Once in there its a fight he as to make himself to prove himself worthy but he needs to be there first.

He scored 1 -14 in a Walsh cup match and then left off panel Cody just did not pick him

He scored 3-29 in Junior League/championship last year, 3-25 of which was from play I was told a few months back, granted some of that opposition would be weak he was up against but its good going for a player in his 1st adult year.