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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    Fascinated to see the team for Saturday - listening to the most recent craggy podcast, they said Bundee has only played 3 times for us this season, is that right? None of them good performances, including a red card, and a terrible display against Ulster. I think I'd pick Forde personally, but I can see why they'd give Bundee another crack.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    He was pretty good in the URC game at home to treviso



  • Registered Users Posts: 9 BleedGreen


    He's played 6 times for Connacht so far this year compared to his 7 Connacht apps last year. Considering he's a year older, is managed by Ireland and had an 8 week ban I'd say that's about where we could have hoped for this year.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No real surprises in that exit list.

    I'm happy to see the branch find a one year deal for TOH. When fully fit he's still been our best fullback and we could do with another experienced head around the squad next year.

    I hope Conor Fitz has a chance to find his game again. I had hopes for him when he first started playing for us but he's lost confidence in his game and it's been very clear that the coaches have lost confidence in him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Any idea where Byrne is going? I think its unlikely he will play for an Irish province again.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭KBurke85


    Some talk that he is heading over to play in America not sure how true it is



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,361 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    You’d have to feel for the guy, had unbelievable talent, might have amassed a lot of caps but injury after injury just kept him out almost constantly



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Loosehead


    Denis Buckley (33) - Signed 2 + 1 year contract in 2023

    Matthew Burke (26) - Signed 2 year contract in 2022

    Peter Dooley (29) - Signed contract in 2022

    Jordan Duggan (25) - Signed 1 year contract in 2023


    Oisin Michel (21) - Academy year 1

    Charlie Ward (23) - Academy year 3


    Tighthead


    Jack Aungier (24) - Signed contract in 2022

    Finlay Bealham (31) - Signed 2 year contract in 2022

    Sam Illo (22) - Signed 2 year contract in 2023

    Dominic Robertson-McCoy (29) - Signed 1 year contract in 2023


    Hooker


    Eoin De Buitléar (21) - Signed 2 year contract in 2023

    Dave Heffernan (32) - Signed 2 year contract in 2023

    Dylan Tierney-Martin (24) - Signed 3 year contract in 2023



    Lock


    Oisin Dowling (26) - Signed contract in 2022

    Joe Joyce (29) - Signed contract in 2023

    Josh Murphy (28) - Signed 2 year contract in 2022

    Darragh Murray (22) - Signed contract in 2022

    Niall Murray (23) - Signed 2 year contract in 2023

    Gavin Thornbury (29) - Signed 1 year contract in 2023


    Back row


    Paul Boyle (26) - Signed 1 year contract in 2023

    Jarrad Butler (32) - Signed 2 year contract in 2022

    Shamus Hurley-Langton (23) - Signed contract in 2022

    Sean Jansen (24) - Signed 2 year contract in 2023

    Oisin McCormack (22) - Signed contract in 2022

    Sean O'Brien (23) - Signed contract in 2023

    Conor Oliver (27) - Signed 2 year contract in 2022

    Cian Prendergast (23) - Signed 3 year contract in 2022


    Donnacha Byrne (22) - Academy year 3

    John Forde (20) - Academy year 1


    Scrumhalf


    Caolin Blade (29) - Signed 3 year contract in 2023

    Colm Reilly (24) - Signed 2 year contract in 2023


    Matthew Devine (21) - Academy year 1

    Will Reilly (22) - Academy year 2


    Outhalf


    Jack Carty (31) - Signed 3 year contract in 2022


    Harry West (20) - Academy year 1


    Centre


    Bundee Aki (33) - Signed 3 year central contract in 2020

    Shayne Bolton (23) - Signed 1 year contract in 2023

    Tom Daly (30) - Signed 2 year contract in 2022

    Tom Farrell (29) - Signed 2 year contract in 2022

    Cathal Forde (21) - Signed contract in 2022

    David Hawkshaw (24) - Signed 2 year contract in 2023

    Byron Ralston (23) - Signed contract in 2022


    John Devine (19) - Academy year 1

    Daniel Hawkshaw (21) - Academy year 1


    Back 3


    Santiago Cordero (29) - Signed 2 year contract in 2023

    Mack Hansen (25) - Signed 3 year contract in 2022

    Shane Jennings (22) - Signed contract in 2022

    Diarmuid Kilgallen (23) - Signed contract in 2022

    Liam McNamara (26) - Signed contract in 2023

    Oran McNulty (23) - Signed 2 year contract in 2022

    Tiernan O'Halloran (32) - Signed 1 year contract in 2022

    John Porch (29) - Signed 2 year contract in 2023

    Andrew Smith (23) - Signed contract in 2023


    Hugh Gavin (19) - Academy year 1

    Shane Mallon (21) - Academy year 1

    Chay Mullins (21) - Academy year 1

    Josh O'Connor (22) - Academy year 2


    *ages as at 01/09/2023


    IN: Eoin De Buitléar (hooker, academy), Joe Joyce (lock, Bristol Bears), Sean Jansen (back row, Leicester Tigers), Sean O'Brien (back row, Leinster), Santiago Cordero (back 3, Bordeaux Bègles), Liam McNamara (back 3, Ireland Sevens), Andrew Smith (back 3, Leinster)

    OUT: Shane Delahunt (hooker, retiring), Grant Stewart (hooker, TBC), Leva Fifita (lock, TBC), Ciaran Booth (back row, TBC), Sean Masterson (back row, TBC), Kieran Marmion (scrumhalf, Bristol Bears), Conor Fitzgerald (outhalf, TBC), Adam Byrne (back 3, TBC), Alex Wootton (back 3, retiring)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Loosehead: no change

    Tighthead: no change

    Hooker: 2 out, 1 in

    Lock: 1 out, 1 in

    Back row: 2 out, 2 in

    Scrumhalf: 1 out, 0 in

    Outhalf: 1 out, 0 in

    Centre: no change

    Back 3: 2 out, 3 in


    Stronger year on year at tighthead (no change but good Aungier and Illo have gotten decent minutes), lock, back row, and back 3. Will have to see if we make any more signings at 2, 9, or 10, but definitely looking weaker in those positions as is currently.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    10 we won't, Carty/Hawkshaw, Forde is ok back-up, McNamara recruited for that too, West coming

    9 we shouldn't Devine Reilly both need to be trusted now, an Academy signing might come

    2 we should. Neither of our 3 hookers are perfect. So it's Declan Moore, Galwayman Dylan Donneelan, or NIQ

    as after we only have Cordero, Porch and SHL (project player) in the category (Leva leaving)

    Moneyball Pacifican n°2 are easy to find IMO



  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭tintedgreenglasses2016


    Treviso is not a good example. We were not competitive in that game. Everything folded in that game. So he really had no say in the game whatsoever.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    I was talking about the URC game before Christmas that Connacht won. Bundee and Boyle linked up particularly well



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Absolutely do need short term experience at 9. Blade is fourth choice with Ireland and on form should travel ahead of Casey to France (not likely).

    If he goes to France or gets injured you only have Reilly who barely has an experience. Bring someone in for a year, the younger lads will still get plenty of game time



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    RWC definites:

    Mack

    Finlay


    RWC likely:

    Bundee

    Cordero (not sure if he’s still getting call ups)


    RWC hopefuls:

    Prendergast

    Blade

    Longshots:

    Heff would be fifth choice it seems but Kelleher and Sheehan haven’t the best records. Forde would be my long long short bolter. If he was with Leinster he’d be in similar conversations to Frawley and Osbourne.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Niall Murray has 14 lineout steals in the URC this season so far. 6 more than any other player. Phenomenal talent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    Logged on expecting to see plenty of commentary around the selection for tomorrow, but nothing. Am I sensing a lack of interest for what is a pretty big game? They went for Bundee, which is fair enough - pressure on them all to perform, but him especially you'd have to say. Feel for Cathal Forde, but he has a long career ahead of him for us you'd hope.

    CONNACHT RUGBY MATCHDAY 23 VS CARDIFF RUGBY

    Saturday 15th April, 19:35 Irish time @ The Sportsground

    Number/Name/Caps

    15. Tiernan O’Halloran (218)

    14. Diarmuid Kilgallen (15)

    13. Tom Farrell (95)

    12. Bundee Aki (124)

    11. Mack Hansen (25)

    10. Jack Carty (191) (C)

    9. Caolin Blade (166)

    1. Denis Buckley (224)

    2. Dylan Tierney-Martin (20)

    3. Finlay Bealham (185)

    4. Josh Murphy (14)

    5. Niall Murray (52)

    6. Cian Prendergast (43)

    7. Conor Oliver (59)

    8. Jarrad Butler (111)

    16. Eoin de Buitléar (1)

    17. Peter Dooley (16)

    18. Dominic Robertson-McCoy (78)

    19. Oisín Dowling (40)

    20. Shamus Hurley-Langton (16)

    21. Kieran Marmion (226)

    22. Tom Daly (74)

    23. Shane Jennings (3)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Sharks Vs Benetton at half 5 this evening is a big game for us also. Gave myself a headache thinking about the permutations but I think we want a Benetton win?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Yeah Treviso win with no bonus and no sharks bonus would be most ideal result



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    Very interesting to see how Friend decided to chose experience over youth for that game. Hold nerves may have been the word.

    ALL and every 50/50 calls went to the lad with more time under his belt

    Buckley ahead of Dooley

    Murphy ahead of Dowling

    Dowling ahead of D.Murray

    Oliver ahead of SHL

    Butler ahead of Boyle

    Kilgallen ahead of Jennings/Bolton

    Aki ahead of Forde

    Daly ahead of Hawkshaw

    Marmion ahead of Reilly

    McCoy ahead of Augier/Illo

    And you can suspect Thornbury and Heff may have been prefered to DTM and Murray if fit (though I do think Murray would have been retained and Murphy dropped)

    Only Prendergast and Hansen are "too good to be wasted"



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭MarinersBlues


    I see he has signed for Munster.


    That's a little disappointing.

    Would love to have seen him come home.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Scarlets 9-5 up in Glasgow with just under half an hour to go. Could really do with Glasgow pulling it out here. Think they were twenty point favourites before game so would hope they will still win but not the score line expected after fifty odd minutes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭Citizenpain


    12-9



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Glasgow hang on thankfully. Wild last ten, Scarlets had try ruled out somewhat harshly after their second row picked ball from back of ruck in their own 22 and ran length of pitch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Both teams played second stringish teams. Hard to figure what exactly Glasgow will put out next week but with the challenge cup semi final away to scarlets the following week seems unlikely they go full strength.

    Only really matters if Connacht win tomorrow of course.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Connacht need stormers to deny Munster a TBP win. That way Glasgow are guaranteed a home QF.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    Glasgow have absolutely NOTHING to play for they will finish 3rd in the table whatever. It would be insanely silly not to put a mickey mouse team next week.

    + Sharks are still behind in point difference after today!

    So if Sharks win large Munster are out

    if they win close and the worst case 5-2 scenario happens, Sharks won't take more than + 7 difference

    Assuming we win by 10 tomorrow it means we are 7th just by taking a double BP vs Glasgow A next week

    I get we can scr** even that, like we did in Newcastle.

    But now it's fair. If we are unable to win quite easily at home with a full-squad, and have 2 points vs a second team rotating 15 players at least, we would not deserve Champions Cup



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    They are guaranteed it already. I’m not sure what the tie breaker is in the unlikely event Munster got ten points from their last two but Glasgow just needed home win tonight, read that previously and urc just tweeted same.


    https://twitter.com/urcofficial/status/1646974309032706050?s=46&t=KZLNf6yTPmAk3BIhQDqw4A



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Must go by head to head with Munster ?

    Glasgow could still be chasing 3rd place but it's unlikely. They are 99% in 4th so.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    Yeah I guess head to head is the only definitive way it could be decided by tonight even if there was an impossibly large points difference between them couldn’t technically rule out that being made up.

    I presume that means Connacht would finish ahead of Munster if on equal points? Connacht won by 9 at home and lost by 7 in Limerick.


    edit - I guess it could be on match points taken too rather than cumulative points which would favour Munster.



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