Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed. **Threadbans in OP**

Yes, if every witness has to be lying and the Gardaí have to be corrupt in order to provide a defence for someone, then something is wrong.

There’s certainly a case for him playing the sort of “ I know I’m a strange fish, but this and that and the other” card. The whole thing is probably a big game to him by now, however it’s an awful risk to take if he he had done it. The real problem is that he’s in limbo, it’s difficult to rule him out completely and he’s done himself no favours over the years either. It’s just impossible to tell, he didn’t appear to be in a state of agitation the morning after the murder, no reports of him waking up in the night screaming, no signs of PTSD, you’d need to be a very calculating character to pull it off and behave reasonably normally after doing something like that. At this stage he knows that regardless of whether he’s guilty or innocent it could never go to trial anyway as he wouldn’t be able to get a fair trial.

It’s become a way of life for Ian by now, this constant crusade to prove his innocence. Thing is he didn’t need to do any of it, it’s down to the State to prove that he’s guilty he’s presumed innocent until that happens. He must have had it pretty handy, most working people wouldn’t have the time to be constantly dealing with it.

That's exactly the type of excuse making for Bailey that I am taking about.

A steady yearly survey shows that one in three women has been abused by their Husband / Partner at least once during their relationship.

35.6% too be precise.

These figures are a reflection on Irish society, not just the loons and blow-ins of West Cork.

The reasoning that Bailey had a propensity for violence against women is not really going to cut the mustard here and provide grounds for a conviction for murder.

A rough google of the area will provide a figure of around 57,000 males residing in West Cork at any given time, or around 17,000 bucks that have raised their hand to their respective women.. That's at least 16,999 that didn't murder Sophie, yet have a track record for violence towards women.. Can you see where this is going...??

Thankfully, our justice system requires evidence and not the local country bumpkin gossip to convict a man.

Look at the personality and character of Ian Bailey, he is a media whore that strives too be kept in the spotlight.. He kept himself relevant to the investigation from the get-go.. He could have explained his timeline from day one, there is not one shred of evidence against him, he could have fallen off the radar by the end of his first interview.

Instead, he kept goading the investigation by way of third party comments, offering up double meaning statements to willing news carriers.. He played them all, never saying enough to incriminate himself - And he knew it.

Too this day, he still goads the public with his posts - He is an intelligent man behind it all. He keeps himself relevant.

There is a reason why the good Ian is still walking the streets - Nobody has anything on him, not one iota.

Realistically... Do you think that after a feed of beer (Bailey style), he would have been able to pull off a brutal murder, get splattered in blood, make it home again, wash up, clean up, and leave not one sign of his grizzly shenanigans from the night before for anybody to discover... Oh yeah, and then goad the investigation team to scrutinise him....

Is it really the most plausible theory though - I dont think it is. Im not 100% convinced Bailey is innocent either but when you look at the following list of other suspects he actually seems the most unlikely:

• The grieving husband who couldn't be bothered to even come to Ireland when his wife was murdered who got his lover pregnant 6 months after Sophies murder. It was also reported that they had marital difficulties. Does this sound like a grieving husbands behaviour?
• The randy local garda who had a problem with women saying no to him. This garda also apparently had a fondness for foreign women
• The small time drug dealer who lived next door who reportedly didnt get on with Sophie. They had disputes regarding land bounderies and the gate being left opened in the past. The gardai allowed the neighbours trample all over the scene and bizarrely allowed them to travel to the dump a mere few hours after the body being discovered. These same neighbours apparently heard or seen nothing despite living very near the scene. One of them also had an injury to their hand.
• Rumours of big drug deals in the area. Did Sophie see something she shoudnt have
• The Ungerers - one of the few people who knew Sophie was alone. Mr Ungerer is supposed to have being a strange sort
• German neighbour who committed suicide soon after and is said to have told others that he done a terrible thing
• A son of a local prominent family went abroad in a huge hurry soon after the murder. He is rumoured never to have returned to Ireland
• Sophies house was being used by someone when she wasnt there. Could they have made there way into the house that night thinking it was empty
• Marie Farrell - what I can I say about Marie- Who was the invisible man and did he even exist. What is the truth with Marie and why did she tell so many lies?

I havent even mentioned all the unusual misfits who lived in the area. Bailey actually seems normal when compared to some of them. It seems an area full of weirdos

Yep. But apparently you'd have to be a conspiracy theorist to see any connection between the two.

AGS would NEVER NEVER do anything like that.

Or offer a criminal drugs to try to get information on Bailey.

And look at the name of the judge who gave him the suspiciously suspended sentence - which was out of line with previous sentences for in comparison minor dealing given by the same judge. Where do we see that name again.

Why then did she ask Josie Hellen to keep her updated on Alfie's drugs bust, and to send her newspaper clippings of the case?

We'll add judges to the list involved in this conspiracy! 🤣 It's amazing that they couldn't get the DPP involved also given who they got on board to implicate poor, innocent, woman beating Bailey.

I have written before, that I would never ever rule out Bailey. If he did it, he should rot in jail.

However the problem with the theory "Bailey did it" is that he neither has motive nor is there evidence to place him at the crime scene. I doubt that he drove to the murder site, otherwise he'd have to clean the car, so he would have hiked. That would have been at least one hour one way. It would have been quite some exercise for somebody who's been out drinking also not knowing if Sophie would have opened the door to him. And how would Bailey have known when Sophie would fly back to France and how long she would have been at her cottage?

The whole Bailey theory is based on his history of violence towards his partner Jules and it is implied that he would do the same to nearly ever other woman. But again, he has no history of that as well.

And then there is the police, corrupt and incompetent, clearly with intent of covering something up for somebody, - either one of their own or somebody was paying them in secrecy to do so.

Thanks for the excellent overview, but you did forget Sophie's ex lover in France who's relationship was terminated by Sophy rather abruptly, - his alibi was just a signature on some telephone technician in France.

These are all the lose ends in this case the police was never able to answer. Instead they colluded, covered up, coerced witnesses and gave drugs to transients to get close to Bailey. Just by this behaviour things are sadly pointing to a higher ranking Guard either involved with drugs or having a sexual interest. Would the police have gone to all that length if it was Sophie's husband? or some ex-lover?

I don't think anyone doubts that there is not enough evidence to charge Bailey.

But what I find odd is how people manage to come up with theories to suggest that others are stronger suspects than Bailey.

Did the husband hire a hit man to carry out such a messy hit ?

How could a man determined to be "frail" be a better fit for beating a woman to death with a heavy object than a strapping 6+ footer?

Bailey is the best suspect because there is so much circumstantial evidence against him.

You can believe or disbelieve whoever you want. The problem for you is that you have to disbelieve so many people including Bailey to avoid admitting that he's the most likely suspect. And to try to rule him out, you have to believe those with reason to lie. It's not a solid foundation for ruling someone out.

The DPP didn't think there was enough evidence and that's down to the incompetence of AGS. The French authorities found enough evidence but you rule that out, right?

Your statements about the DPP have been demonstrated by multiple posters to be false, without foundation and merit.

Directly contradicted in fact.

Yet still you repeat it. I think that speaks volumes about your 'case'.

There is no way your false statements can be reconciled with this:

To quote Eamon Barnes, Director of Public Prosecutions: "the evidence came nowhere near warranting a charge against Ian Bailey" " the case was thoroughly flawed and prejudiced and culminated in a grossly improper attempt to achieve or even force a decision which accorded with that prejudice"

And if we take this report to be from the DPP:

Bailey’s explanation for the scratches is plausible, consistent and is supported by other direct and credible evidence.

The Garda contention that Bailey is being untruthful and evasive regarding his knowledge of Sophie Toscan du Plantier is not supported by convincing evidence.

Based on the above conversation and on the allegation by Martin Graham that he was given Hash by the Gardaí, despite D/Gda. Fitzgerald’s denial, the balance of evidence suggests that Graham is telling the truth. Such investigative practices are clearly unsafe to say the least.

The Gardaí that describe Bailey and Jules as lying in relation to the fire. This Office is not persuaded that is the case. In any event the most that this evidence could possibly establish is that Bailey could have burnt bloodstained clothes, not that he did so.

https://syndicatedanarchy.wordpress.com/2014/09/30/30/

This is by far the biggest motive. It is also speculated that Daniel would have some financial problems as well, - but that was also never investigated. Him not coming to Ireland spelt to me the language of "I don't care if she's dead" and "don't go to Ireland" and "better get on with your new girl" and "let all the others deal with it". I mean, what do you do, if your wife dies overseas? You drop everything and go there to take care of things.

However I don't know the extent of possible drug trafficking in the area, the financial loss or a possible jail sentence. Interesting fact is that neither on the peninsula lived a lifestyle in luxury.