Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

You get truck lane size leeway here to constantly accuse others of lying.

I'm not playing your angry vitriol game.

Get your scissors ready.

The Ireland of zero immigration was a depressing kip of a place which people couldn't wait to leave. The anti-immigration guys seem to think Ireland can have a booming economy and high standard of living without any migrant workers to fuel the boom or fill the vacancies (either that or they actively want everyone else to be as miserable and inward looking as they are....perhaps the 'depressing kip' version of Ireland is the one they are secretly hankering after). Most EU citizens who come here for example are young, hard working and are tax payers.

Gaelic Paradise 😂 Love it. You're right of course. Shure let's go back to 'Old Ireland' which was ruled from Rome or by corrupt politicians and had mass emigration.

On and on the same old tired rubbish.

It seems you are trying to borrrrreeee everyday to death with your repetitive stuff.

Borrrrringgg repetitive comments and angry baseless accusations.

I will have to repost the CSO government figures , Irish Examiner articles and RTE reports so you can accuse them of lying.

A total of 79,783 Ukrainian people are now living in Ireland, according to the most up-to-date figures, and around 85 are still arriving here every day on average

Ukranian numbers in Ireland from official government sources.

Go do your usual angry stuff and shout liars at them.

Stop your uncivil behaviour to me and others here. Grow up.

You posted a few months ago there was no more than a dozen Ukrainian reg cars in Ireland. Is this figure still up to date yurt?

So, in 15 months since January 2022, we have had:

79,783 Ukrainian refugees

13,319 non-Ukrainian asylum seekers in 2022

1,437 non-Ukrainian asylum seekers in 2023 as of 7th Feb. With 200 odd arriving each week, that figure is probably double now.

So around 96,000 asylum seekers since January 2022, and it’s not like Jan ‘22 was day zero for asylum seekers - they have always been coming here and will keep continuing to do so.

So not quite the 100,000 you said which the other poster claimed were lies, but not far off.

National Party, Ireland First, Irish Freedom Party, Aontu and the Provisional Peoples Front for the Liberation of Ireland First will end up running against each other and cancelling each other out

Post up your link to the facts of ur last statement.

The problem is that any band of presumably right leaning parties / independents will eventually fail eachothers' purity tests. Some will see others as too extreme, and some will see others as not extreme enough. Any such party has to manage to unite a church of people that might comprise of some who have reasonable misgivings about multiculturalism with a whole array of people whose views range across supporting staunch Catholicism, libertarianism, authoritarianism, the brutalisation and even killing of criminals, summary deportations of migrants (along various differing thresholds of what qualifies for deportation), the maintenance of the 'purity' of the Irish race etc etc etc.

They could all band together but eventually they disgust and disappoint eachother. Those with the reasonable views would find it impossible to reel in the eccentrics and extremists, and the eccentrics and extremists would simply decry the reasonable ones as bootlickers.

Yes the irate poster could have provided a lnk from the cso for his claim about those Ukranians actually remaining here. A deduction of 10k as dsp shows all those with active claims. The number of 20k+ are those in DP only 2k are in own accommodation and now 400 + on the streets .

David McWilliams wrote a very good article recently suggesting that whenever openly 'right wing' or right wing populist governments are elected globally, they usually end up wrecking the place and the economy. They are guided by ideology primarily (immigration and refugees, culture war issues, conservative values etc) and are invariably clueless as to how the modern economy works. Also, the markets often take fright and investors are reluctant to get involved with a country governed by ideologues.

People rightly would have many concerns about a country being governed by extreme left socialists but they probably should be even more worried by the right wing populist types.

IMO McGrath just trots out that stuff to win brownie points withn the Catholic Right. I'm dubious how much of it he truly agrees with or even fully understands. His laser focus is on retaining his Dail seat. If a situation arose where this putative party was propping up another FF/FG government you can rest assured they wouldn't be demanding any major lurches to the right on immigration or anything else; the individual TDs would as always be overwhelmingly concerned with looking after their own constituents....