Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Well we saw how anti-abortion sentiment in both FF and FG melted away like snow in the sun the moment it becane politically inconvenient. To me these independents are like FF or FG backbenchers of 20 or 30 years ago, mouthing 'socially conservative' platitudes to appeal their backwoods constituents. So supposing this new party was negotiating to support an FF/FG government and they had something like introducing a cap on immigration in their manifesto, I'm confident if they got any sort of pushback from the establishment, Mattie would drop said proposal like a hot potato in favour of a new bypass for Carrick-on-Suir or whatever...

We all know what Gripts agenda is. It needs to be always called out for exactly what it is.

Id 100% back them off they formed a new party, only if they develop policy’s holistically.

We would be the first country in history to do it.

we can’t get ourselves out of trouble with the same thinking that got us into it.

The left are bought and paid for by the fraction of a percentage.

If you believe that the government are cracking down on arrivals presenting without passports then it's clear that arrivals from across the border will emerge as the main way migrants enter the republic.

Here's a video detailing how the migrants enter from France. They are all men. A certain percentage will opt for Ireland especially if the UK government really does start Rwanda flights. I personally think they won't but it's something to keep an eye on.

https://youtu.be/oKcJXvBZGSg

Shocking,no excuse. Straight deportation. Same as 3 Georgians, report in today's evening herald caused over 3.5k worth of damage to a taxi drivers car. 2 here as asylum seekers.

Shît hitting the fan in Sudan, an attempted coup. But the state forces are believed to be getting on top of the citizens and heavy violence is prevailing.

of course the EU is already having a say…

The High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell has called on forces to immediately cease violence and consider the protection of Sudanese citizens.

if that doesn’t happen this Borrell fella will probably start sending the planes for them…so the EU taxpayers can protect them, with housing, healthcare , transportation and weekly cash awaiting in every EU state…

EU…. The worlds life raft..

as I said before, the world has never been without war, hunger, famine, inequality, violence, poverty etc and it’s unlikely to ever be. Yet the EU continues to be.. the worlds life raft. EU citizens continue to pony up to help ALL in sundry while more and more services are denied or scaled back for / to citizens here.

there needs to be ‘limits’

Come on then annasopra -enlighten us

what is this gript agenda you say “we all know”?????

Ultimately that’s what will happen…. The citizens of EU countries didn’t vote for this tidal wave of ‘refugees’, nobody here, joined the EU with the premise of these influxes coming in and our hard earned tax payers money disappearing out into the ether…. they / we are not being offered any say in it. There are some years where we are receiving over one hundred thousand per annum in Ireland..

so eventually…. What happens when democracy fails ? When people in democratically placed positions of responsibility, abdicate that responsibility, stop listening ? …Violence reigns.

people are not going to stand for 700,000-800,000 ( maybe more in time ) people per decade rocking up to our shore’s wanting and being given…

Free housing / accommodation

Free healthcare

Free public transport

And so on…. Paid for by citizens….literally ALL at citizens expense. Our expense in every aspect.

people will kick up violently. Not because they want to, not because they are just angry, but when their / our wellbeing gets degraded to a certain point, something has to give, something has to change… people won’t have an alternative.

some countries have problems …? Always been the way….we’ve had our own and literally were on our own.

not every country / state entity, or human can be winning…not our fault or problem.

just look at our capital projects… Metro… still a pipe dream….children’s hospital ffs…..8-9 years to construct… been talked about for the same before it was approved. Conservatively 1.7 billion over budget is the estimate .

but, hey.. let’s open our doors to pretty much everyone from anywhere with any difficulty, life challenges or sob story and us taxpayers bankroll their wellbeing, comfort, safety and success.. Never mind our needs, requirements or welfare.

I’ve had a look over on their site and can’t find a lot of it - I think they need to try harder if that’s their agenda.

Around one in every one hundred people living in Ireland is a refugee or former refugee (I'm not including Ukrainian people in this as they are here under temporary protection and many may well choose to return to Ukraine in time). Has your life really been 'degraded' by this reality?