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Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

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    #17732
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    I'm very reluctant these days to talk about refs, but that reffing today was bizarre from start to finish.

    Would have to rewatch it to know if it had an outcome on the final scoreboard, but between signalling for penalties that turned out not to be, and the TMO intervening inconsequentially, it was... Bizarre!



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    #17733
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Was an excellent win. Completely undoes the damage from the Glasgow defeat.

    I'd say 1 point against the Sharks would be enough to avoid dropping to 6th and having to travel to SA, but I actually think Munster are well placed to win that game now. That victory will do wonders for them.



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    #17734
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Some of my thoughts on that

    • Our best result all season, at a time when we badly needed it.
    • Huge response from the last day, particularly in the 15-20 mins after half time where we disintegrated vs Sharks. Coombes with 2 huge turnovers during that defensive set, and it culminated in that superb Daly try.
    • Our attacking maul looked great all day
    • Thought we went for the poach much more frequently today than we have done all season. Defensively, we had to scramble a lot at times, but did so significantly better than vs Sharks.
    • That pitch was in a shocking condition even before kick-off.
    • POM absolutely outstanding. Thought our entire starting back-row went very well. Kendellen's a bloody nuisance.
    • That hand in the face (twice) on POM... simply has to be more than a penalty.
    • Snyman looks like he has a chance to get back to his pre-injury best. Really encouraging performance again from him.
    • Kleyn quality again, doing pretty much what he does every game for us and Archer deserves a mention too.
    • Injuries to Snyman and Coombes tho, it seemed? Hopefully nothing too bad, 2 huge players for us at the pointy end of the season...


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    #17735
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481906#Comment_120481906

    Disagee tbh. Couple of errors, sure, but I actually thought he did really well other than that and should retain the starting jersey for the rest of the season. Thought some of his carrying and passing was excellent.



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    #17736
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120482951#Comment_120482951

    Yeah agree here. The errors were blatant, pass intercept and a penalty given away for no clear release spring to mind.

    But I really like what he brings in both attack and defence. He has an edge that Joey just never had, nor Healy. And Rowntree is right imo to finally let him have-at the 10 jersey. Hopefully he has it again next week.



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    #17737
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483143#Comment_120483143

    To me, the biggest error was a missed tackle on their centre for one of the tries, but we saw plenty other really good contributions from him.

    I’d even forgive him the 2 errors you mention, they’re the type of errors you can accept as it comes from trying to do the right thing.

    Intercept passes can be very marginal; take the Daly try, Healy’s pass was so close to being intercepted but instead took 2 players out of the game.

    And if your 10 is abrasive enough to jackal, that can only be a good thing. (I remember him winning a counter-ruck earlier in the season.



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    #17738
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,265 ✭✭✭✭phog


    That was some win, a BP win in a stadium where the current URC champions haven't lost since Dec 21.We're the first URC team to win down there in a game where both teams needed the win.

    Great start to the game to get the lead then a great start to the second half with some awesome defense and eventually getting a turnover to give us an opportunity to get upfield which led to a try to take the lead again.



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    #17739
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Was it just me, or was the ref mic being played, booming out over the stadium btw?



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    #17740
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483352#Comment_120483352

    Yeah think I noticed that once or twice too.



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    #17741
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,265 ✭✭✭✭phog


    It sounded like the ref mic was broadcast within the stadium while discussing stuff with TMO. This is a great idea and needs to happen more.



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    #17742
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483204#Comment_120483204

    In real time, I was thinking that Healy coming on at 55 minutes was a somewhat spontaneous decision based on a couple of Crowley's errors.

    But in hindsight I think it might be because he's going to start the next match too at 10, and was a pre-planned thing.



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    #17743
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    https://twitter.com/caolansrugby00/status/1647514470766239744?s=46&t=XjW5CNHwGCzxMKsJum63EA

    Great thread on the game



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    #17744
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483204#Comment_120483204

    To me, the biggest error was a missed tackle on their centre for one of the tries

    It seemed to me they targeted Crowley, that wasn’t an isolated incident with their centre attacking his channel. They got good meterage out of it too. One of the things I like about Crowley is he is not shy in the tackle. He seemed off there last night though.



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    #17745
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483537#Comment_120483537

    He combined that with some good tackles too tho. Imo, he still defended much better than we’ve seen from Carbery this season.

    An aside, saw this on Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/snipinscrumhalf/status/1647283954964111361?s=46&t=XjW5CNHwGCzxMKsJum63EA




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    #17746
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483576#Comment_120483576

    Yep he’s very robust. That’s why it surprised me that they seemed to deliberately target his channel. There is no comparison between his defence and Carberrys. It’s night and day.



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    #17747
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,364 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    And he held onto the ball



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    #17748
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,774 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Looking at the table 1st to 4th are now nailed on and likely in the order they're in. As it stands we'd be playing Glasgow away in a semi-final the weekend of 5th May.

    Connacht could mathematically overtake us if they get 4 match points over us in last game so them with a normal win and us not getting a lbp/tbp or them getting a tbp win and us not getting lbp/tbp.

    Bulls could mathematically overtake us if they get 5 match points over us but they're playing Leinster who will be motivated to keep their unbeaten streak going.

    Bottom line is holding onto 5th is within our control bar things going very badly against us.



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    #17749
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,265 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Glasgow have nothing to play for next weekend, they might we'll be beaten by Connacht, we need a LBP at least, possibly two to stay in 5th place



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    #17750
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,774 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483912#Comment_120483912

    With Connacht playing after us we will be aiming for the win of course. Glasgow likely be more focused on their Challenge Cup semi final against Scarlets the following Saturday



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    #17751
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 17,152 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    The main thing for me is that the Carbery-Crowley 10-12 axis is to be avoided at all costs. It provides two targets for dominant defensive hits or big carriers. Too much for the back row and Frisch to stress about.

    Crowley has the 10 shirt in my mind, but I think it's a bit more complex than saying "we're better defensively with him at 10".

    I mean, we are. Crowley is a superior defender. But the big big factor is Feiktoa-Frisch in the centre, which for me has been the foundation of the best defensive performances this season.



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    #17752
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,265 ✭✭✭✭phog


    RGS


    https://twitter.com/TheLooseH/status/1647685883850637313?t=PxRMn5TNP-n9ty4P3ezkUg&s=19




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    #17753
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 24,265 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I heard Rowntree in a post match interview say that Munster (and probably Stormers) wore the longest studs available to them and they were still slipping at times. The field really was a mess and according to someone on MFs who was at the game there was a Currie Cup played there before our gane



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    #17754
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,364 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Not sure was it a good or poor throw from Barron, but the lean across gave Munster a great go forward when he came back to ground.



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    #17755
    gameoverdude
    Registered Users Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120485528#Comment_120485528

    That sounds like an injury waiting to happen.

    Drainage?



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    #17756
    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120483912#Comment_120483912

    If we get a TBP and win against Sharks, and Glasgow get nothing, we'll get the home QF

    Not particularly likely, but Glasgow do have something to play for as of now at least



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    #17757
    connachta
    Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120485608#Comment_120485608

    No

    Glasgow will play A and Connacht should prevail

    as you can't catch them. N° of wins first and you'll have one less than Glasgow anyway. They are safe



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    #17758
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120485608#Comment_120485608

    Now you won't. Glasgow have the tiebreaker over Munster on number of wins



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    #17759
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120485608#Comment_120485608

    Nope


    The first tie break for teams on even points is number of games won and Glasgow on 12 are ahead of Munster on 10 in a way that can't be caught.



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    #17760
    Akrasia
    Registered Users Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120485648#Comment_120485648

    i thought it was pd first



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    #17761
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,774 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120485677#Comment_120485677

    Used be at one stage I think but first decided now number of matches won



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