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Sulky Racing on Irish Roads - Any ban there ?

  • 17-04-2023 1:17pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭


    Lots of people on about banning horse racing in UK and some in Ireland but the biggest cruelty of horses on a daily basis all over Ireland is Sulky horses been whipped up and down main roads and by roads on surfaces that do huge damage to their legs & Joints , a far greater percentage of these horses are killed and left to die on our roads but it seems to be not allowed talk about this blantant cruelty ??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,294 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    According to the Sunday World it is illegal. I think that is the same as a ban?

    RECKLESS RACERS | Ireland's illegal sulky racing scene dominated by thugs with gangland connections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Seems to be fellows at it all over the country for something thats illegal? maybe races are illegal ?

    In limerick its going on all over the county forcing divers with tax & Insurance off the road having to pull into hedges to avoid sulkies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,949 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Trying to charge travellers for animal cruelty offences or any offence is like trying to nail jelly to a wall.

    Not that they care much about getting in trouble anyway, it's not like they're keeping down jobs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭NattyO


    Sulky racing is mainly enjoyed by an element of the population that enjoy considerable leeway in relation to law enforcement, so regardless of whether it's banned or not, they will still keep doing it, and the Gardai will continue to look the other way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    Enforcement is the word you're looking for.

    As much chance of it happening as ...... well, something that never, ever, ever happens.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,294 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fellows are doing illegal stuff all the time. Citizens should report them. I did a quick online search, and there are court cases for these horsey people.

    https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/tullamore-tribune/995400/man-in-offaly-sulky-race-facing-prosecution.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,899 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    A few weeks ago, a horse had to be put down by the Curragh after its hoof got caught when the sulky driver went over a cattle grid.

    The photo in the link below might distress some...

    https://kildare-nationalist.ie/2023/03/30/horse-driven-to-death-on-the-curragh/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭NattyO




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,565 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Much easier to stop a motorist for borderline breaking a red or going 10 over the speed limit.

    two minute conversation, only a few more minutes to record and log the offence..

    getting into verbals with people who will argue the sky is pink, everything is ok cause of ‘culture’ etc…. The judges don’t back them, and the don’t back us, the general law abiding citizens so…. You’d probably not feel it’s worth the effort.

    incredible leeway is indeed accurate…

    No deterrent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Plus Animal rights activists tend to be of a left leaning persuasion so they risk loosing social capital by criticising a sacred cow of the left.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,294 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Something not adding up here. The "culture" people are heavily over represented in the prison population. How are they getting there, if the Guards are not arresting them?

    I will begin with a short slide presentation, giving the committee a brief overview of the extent of the over-representation of Travellers and other ethnic minority groups in prison and to give an explanation for that. As the committee will be aware, Travellers in Ireland represent less than 1% of the total population, but they account for 10% of the prison population. Traveller women make up, at least, 15% of all women in prison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,464 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    TL;DR version?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭NattyO


    It's not that they don't get arrested, it's that, when involved in cultural activities (sulky racing on public roads, slash hook combat at weddings/funerals/communions etc., bare knuckle boxing, domestic violence, tax evasion, building scams, UK reg vans that never get reregistered here, lack of road tax & insurance, dumping of rubbish, animal cruelty, child neglect etc. etc.) they are generally "let at it" as long as it's not too blatant that it becomes an embarrassment, or there's too many calls to the Guards about it. For stuff like burglary, drug dealing, assault etc. they will get arrested like anyone else, mainly because it doesn't fall under the "sure it's their culture, let them at it" umbrella.

    Imagine how many of them would be in prison if they were routinely charged and imprisoned for their cultural activities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,294 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    The protestors at Aintree or their friends in Ireland should be protesting at these sulky events if they really care about the cruellest of abuse of horse welfare .

    If i was a horse id far more prefer to be jumping around fences in Aintree with well manicured grounds getting buckets of water straight after races to drink and cool me down plus plush stables before and after races rather than been whipped up and down the roads of Ireland by some fat layabout attached to me on some metal cart and having my legs and feet destroyed running on a tarmac/concrete road with little food/water etc.



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