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Sulky Accident Waterford - Ban Sulkys

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭apache


    Disgusting practice. The hooves do be pounding the roads without proper shoes. Does so much damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Yes, their hooves and joints must be in bits. That gait that they have is not natural either. They must strap their legs with bands or something to force that gait. They are always on the ring road. It's a disgusting practice is right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭apache


    And they say they love animals. Give me a break!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    I would say forget about this topic, its due to the COMMUNITY that are doing this and all authorities in this country are afraid to show bawlls and say no this is wrong no matter who you are. but no, its a special protected culture and no one want to touch that bag of wasps.

    end of



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭spankmemunkey


    Actually just on a related topic, the council should be building stables on the halting site, no horses should be allowed roam free in fields that the traveller community choose. they should be made take training or courses on horse care etc if they want to keep horses.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭Finnbar01


    '.....they should be made take training or courses on horse care etc if they want to keep horses.'


    And how will this be enforced?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭nomoedoe


    Travellers do what they want and nothing will ever be done about it,remember a few years ago a horse on a sulky got loose in ballytruckle and jumped on a car the traveller ran off and left the horse there,the horse ended up being put down due to its injuries,nothing was done then and nothing will be done now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭OhToBeByTheSea


    The only way this will ever change is from within their community. We cannot change them from the outside, it has been tried for many years but there is no engagement from them. Where is Pavee Point on this very serious matter? It would be great to see them meet with the government and the council and just see what each side proposes.

    It shouldn't take another animal dying or another road user being injured for this discussion to be had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭BBM77


    Travelers could not care less about you, me, the animals, the government, the council or the effect their activities have on anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    That sums up the problem in a very few but powerful words. One law for them one for us.

    Why on earth would they care when they know well absolutely nothing will be done about it.



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  • Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why do they even need horses!

    I need a licence for my dog, I need insurance for my car.

    If I purchase a horse I have to house him at stables & pay the charges!

    These people are simply parasites who add absolutely nothing culturally

    or economically to this country & yet they feel that they have a God given right

    to infest this island with their presence!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    You are sounding very like a neo-fascist with a rant like the above……very like how the Israeli's would view the Palestinians and Russians the Ukrainians….😡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭Deiseen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    Also, do you think that travellers sit around and tell nice stories about us. They hate us, they despise us, they think they are better than us and they see us as nothing but things to be taken advantage of. They have zero respect for people who are not travellers, in fact they have zero respect for people who aren't members of their own family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    It'd be great if Boards could organise one of those Ask Me Anything type interviews to get their perspective on all of this.

    On the one hand there are many people who are deeply frustrated by the behaviour of Travellers and the lack of consistently in how laws are applied.

    On the other hand, Travellers don't seem to feel part of society. They in many cases have very tough lives and encounter plenty of hostility. Some of that is due to their own actions, some of that is due to prejudice and it's a viscous cycle.

    If we've learned anything from history it's that minority groups will just close ranks in that situation and do their own thing.

    At the moment there's a lot of talk about a united Ireland and the types of compromises that might be required to make that that possible.

    We might need to start approaching the discussion with Travellers in the same way or else it's very hard to see any progress happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    This is how the white population of South Africa viewed (some probably still view) the black/native population…….and Irish people are/were abhorred but can still ‘spew bile’ about a group in their own country with ease and can’t see any parallel/irony in it..?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Israelis dont have such views. I wont say never but nearly never. Also, please learn what the word fascism means. The original fascists in Italy were not at all fixated on race.



  • Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is there anyone here, a white Irish who has experience of living in South Africa, Ukraine,

    Russia, Israel or Palestine? I personally have met quite a few white South Africans who have

    left the country for their own safety. Majority now living in Cork. 60 people are murdered daily

    In SA. No need to clarify the murder rate in the other countries that I have named & I'm being

    labelled a fascist! I hope that your children do not come home with any of them!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    What about Northern Ireland where people were treated differently based upon their religious background?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    At least three horses killed at Aintree as you wrote this - including the horse Hill Sixteen which broke it's neck at the first fence in Grand National. All so many people, including us, can have a punt on them. First maybe fix this hypocrisy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Would you live next to a halting site, yes or no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭Azatadine




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Good. If it ever happens I wish you the best when they make your life absolutely hell on earth which they will. And with no consequence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Duke of Schomberg


    It's time we banned the Grand National in its current form. Fancy a punt? - there's always the Cheltenham Festival, St Leger, Epsom Derby, or Royal Ascot. Oh! I forgot, the Grand National is run at Aintree, in Merseyside, and we can't upset the pikey Scousers.



  • Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Take away every horse from them!

    They have no business owning one nor do they have a place to keep one except on council property.

    The council are culpable in allowing this to continue! You can't keep certain breeds of dog in council estates so why should you allow horses to be kept on council property when these events occur & they are not infrequent incidents!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    you have or are living beside a halting site I take it….? If so Can you elaborate on the ‘hell on earth’ description



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,814 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    It's their culture boss.

    Funny that it's settled peoples culture to buy certain breeds and unless a bit of heat is brought down no one bothers with them. Heaps of dog about but strange that there are so few licences issued. And it's the culture to buy designer dogs from puppy farms for the Instagram or because we were a bit lonely during covid, but as the puppy farm abuse is hidden away and not on the news that makes it alright, the animal shelters have to pick up the pieces when the dog doesnt suit your lifestyle or is poorly socialized. Some self styled animal lovers make me laugh.

    In so much as I abhor what travellers do, maybe we should look at our own 'culture' also.



  • Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, I completely agree with you!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭OhToBeByTheSea


    I could be wrong but I recall an AMA with a traveller on boards years ago. My recollection is that it was a young traveller woman and, after 1 or 2 pages of posts, she stopped replying. Does anyone else remember this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,748 ✭✭✭Deiseen


    Settled people can also act deplorably towards animals but many carry out the self reflection that you refer to and are constantly calling out this bad behaviour and abuse.

    I have never seen this self reflection of bad behaviour in the travelling community.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    How many contributors to this thread have ever even spoken to or interacted with a ‘traveller’….?



  • Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A few in different times & places & most of them were crooks!

    You could say the same for the majority of people!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Yes it was a train wreck of a thread. It had to be stopped because of bad behaviour. And it wasn't the travellers bad behaviour.

    Are sulkys that big of a problem? They don't even seem to feature on the RSA site with regards to deaths and injuries on the road.

    I have seen them a couple of times and I am not denying they might be cruel bit in the greater scheme of things cars are a infinitely bigger danger on the road No?



  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    Right so, this thread has run its course now, like all threads that mention travellers, it has become a **** show. Once reported posts start coming in, then it’s to hard to moderate one and not another as there are plenty of borderline posts here now.


    Thread Closed now.



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