Every type of food is unsustainable now

Of the people,

By the people,

For the people.

not eating bugs

Beef fat makes better chips, is healthier than a lot of seed oils ..and is largely a by product of our large scale beef industry ,

Which is a by product of our large scale dairy Industry .. which in itself isn't that wonderful environmentally, it's not terrible but it's large scale modern farming ..

Actually a lot of the Omnivours we used to feed meat processing by-products to before we got clever and started feeding sheep and cows to ruminant sheep and cows and manged to create BSE,

And nicer too 😁

Try to fry meat or chips in pork lard and you will not buy bottle of oil again. Polish shops carry a selection of it or you can make your own.

this is the stuff they sell as 'vegetable oil', and also what 90% of fast food restaurants will use in fryers.

More eco friendly? Maybe, if you don't mind the huge rapeflower monocultures

Healthy? Not a chance

Other websites will tell you rapeseed oil is very healthy. Takes a lot less land to make rapeseed oil than animal oil too. Ireland is one vast monoculture to feed cows by the way.

Grow your own spuds peel them and chip them.

Grow your own rapeseed and cold press to make oil.

Cook the chips on a range fired by timber you grew and cut.

Sustainable chips 🙂

Careful now, don't try talking sense or using any of that aul logic and go against the narrative!

A hectare in SE England is practically another climate compared to our wet, windy and overall mild isle.

yeah but they take up far more room. worldwide, if our calories consumed came from plants rather than farmed animals, the planet would be in far better shape. don't forget that most farmed animals eat from food produced in fields of mono crops too, ireland imports millions of tonnes of animal feed every year.

bit of a pointless discussion anyway as we wont be stopping the intensive farming of animals any time soon but there's no getting around the fact that animal farming has far more impact on land used than farming plants.

i don't eat beef anyway and i bet i'd beat you in an arm wrestle 😬

Wait until you find out that everything "green" is also backed up by a long chain of fossil fuel use.

I am probably farming longer than you have lived and to be honest slurry would be a very apt description of the above post.

Fert. is 700 to 900 a ton so its unlikely people are gonna spread it and see it being washed away.Usage of it in Ireland has declined significantly over the past decade and we actually need less than other countries per acre/hectare as our soil and climate is much more suitable for growing grass (and it certain parts cereal crops) than a lot of the world.Irish grass and corn yields are pretty decent compared to much of the world.

The slurry ban ?Care to expand on your issue with that ?

I can assure you cattle and sheep are not "pumped " full of whatever.Antibiotic use is strictly regulated in this country and meat is regularly tested for residue.Anti microbials are almost impossible to get a script for.All antibiotic sales are through a registered premises and only given on the production of a vet. script.This will be an individual animal specific script.Routine dry cow tubing is gone without vet script and even wormers are becoming much more tightly regulated.

If you wish to comment on a topic at least have a little knowledge.

I didn't realise jobs and leather were good for the planet and 2/3 of the earth was turning into desert lol

To be honest havent noticed any "alarming loss of biodiversity" whatever that means but perhaps you have.Maybe you could give me a few examples..

When do you think chemical fert. should be spread .Bit of a contradiction when you think slurry should/could be spread in December/January but not fert.

As you have worked on many large scale farms could you give an example of the overuse of medicine in Irish cattle/sheep.

Could you perhaps explain this paradigm shift in Irish ag. policy and what exactly we might do.

I wasn't arguing with anyone you said there's more to food than calories, this is true but I don't believe you need meat or dairy to be healthy, mostly plant calories suffice. Proof is in the pudding (me).