Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

Sorry I'm sure I was watching Rte, but could possibly be Virgin 1 channel but anyway one of them at least is revealing details of his location and appearance.

Could Hutch sue the state for been locked up as an innocent man?

I think he would win if he took his case to Europe, the state had absolutely no case as was seen from the trial, you can't go around locking up people unless you have some evidence that he committed the crime.

He could sue the state and have them try and defend it by proving he is the head of an Organized Crime family with decades of blood and criminality on his hands. Or he could just slip away into retirement and hope the state leaves him and his family alone.

I don't really get all the support for the family here. They must have been a nightmare to share a neighbourhood with what with Derek stabbing two men dead, Ross kicking the **** out of women and slashing random people in the face, Gary selling heroin and shooting people, Patrick shooting people, Mago stabbing & shooting people. Patsy informing on anyone is was afraid to have shot. Seriously, why is anyone celebrating these guys walking the neighbourhood at all

Until the last 2 years?

Sure its well known about the extended family for sure but as far as gerry goes hes rather alright i would have thought? although cant think for a second he wanted to get involved in that feud would have thought gary and other relations dragged him into it tbh

Unfortunately the judges had no option to call a halt once the DPP sent the case forward for trial, it had to go through to the end. There was absolutely no evidence produced that Hutch was actually one of the people involved in the shooting, which was what he was being charged with, so there was no possibility of a guilty verdict. That is not being an expert after knowing the result, it just simply wasn't possible to reach any other verdict based on the 'evidence' presented. The closest the prosecution got to incriminating evidence was Dowdall saying that Hutch told him he was one of the shooters. Even if Dowdall was the most upstanding individual you couldn't convict for murder on that alone without any corroborating evidence.

At the start of the trial it did indeed look like the state may have had a case (I was pretty certain at the beginning of the trial that the Garda/DPP would have a watertight case and that Hutch would thankfully be going down), they had Dowdall and they had 10 hours of tape which everybody assumed would contain some evidence, of course it turned out that there wasn't anything on the tapes that would even remotely suggest that Hutch was a member of the murder gang, absolutely nothing, so there was no hope of a conviction.

At the beginning of the trial all of us on the outside naturally expected evidence to be produced, only the Gardai/DPP/Hutch defence team knew at that stage that there was no evidence, so I don't think it's fair to say people are experts after the result, primary school kids would have figured it out long before the justices announced their verdict.

Not support for hutch but it was a **** case with no evidence. Called the biggest gangland trial in the history of the state and it was a farce you can't help but laugh. Hutch is guilty of plenty but not what he was charged with, justice prevailed.

I don't think this would be a conspiracy but journalists and photographers getting unofficial information from Garda should be checked out.

We have a mugshot photo of Gerry taken in Terenure September last year published by a journalist which was misrepresented as being somewhere else.

A photo today of his brother and the photographer just happened to spot him saying he didn't seem to have a care in the world. This photo just happened to be outside the man's local Garda Station.

He would have had many other opportunities to photo him on the street if the man was actually walking around the area.

My 2 cents, so jd his 4 kids and the missus were not accepted into wpp even up until he gave evidence, he gives said evidence and is absolutely rinsed by defense and 3 scc judges, and after the monks not guilty verdict (correct). Gets off a murder charge for talking ****, and lying repeatedly, making guards look like mugs, the dpp look like mugs and senior detectives retire. Ffs this country. Gerry beat the system. Fair play 👍

when i looked at ur wan in drag and them patrick when his case collapsed i thought it was patrick but now putting the drag photo beside JD im more convinced it was JD who was the drag shooter tbh

Doubt it.

Hutch bears the closer physical resemblance to the "female", particularly the eyes and nose and the overall shape of the face.

As an adult including the recent 20 months in custody in Spain he’s done around 5 years inside. 7-8 years in total his whole life.

In America they seem to charge you with everything they can think of. If you remember the incident that got O J Simpson inside - he went with others to get some memorabilia from his career that he said had been stolen. One of his pals in room had a gun on him Simpson didn’t. He gets hit with 12 charges from that one event. In Ireland (and prob UK) not same approach. In last 10 years can’t remember the exact details but someone else got off murder. Think they might have moved body. There’s an offence of interfering with Christian burial of body. Trial judge queried why DPP hadn’t charged with murder and moving body. Seems in Ireland to save length of trial/ costs etc they sometimes (often ?) just pick the most serious charges.

Evidence on Hutch OCG was waffle from one Superintendent. Not too long ago that Paul Williams etc were telling us no Hutch OCG. Most of the family members involved in crime seem drug addicts caught doing low level robberies. But let’s go with this idea- however is it also not possible that the former head of the Hutch OCG came back to Ireland after the Regency at request of family members. Being asked to help out/ broker meetings doesn’t as such make you head of Hutch OCG in 2016. Being treated with great respect on Feb 6/7 2016 doesn’t automatically make you head of Hutch OCG.