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The Australians **Mod Warning in Post #129**

  • 18-04-2023 3:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    What's the general consensus here on the Aussies? I like them anyway and Australia is a great country as well. The only negatives for me are the climate, the dangerous animals and wildlife that inhabit the place, and the fact that it's just too far from Ireland. I also find the habit of subtitling irish accents on Australian tv to be annoying and kind of racist. It's a nice place to visit but i could never actually imagine myself living there.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    It’s also very outdoors orientated, and that isn’t shorthand for drinking outside. I remember one Sunday morning going for a drive outside of Melbourne and was surprised about the amount of people just doing stuff. At a similar time in Ireland people would be sleeping off a hangover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Irish people have a lie in on a day off.

    Aussies get up earlier than normal and do stuff on a day off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Also the parrots are really cool, for me there was just something about seeing them out in the open.



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Great food, middling people, terrible beer, bit of a police state. Fussy sort of place - the Home Counties in the sun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    At the same time in Ireland it was also pi**ing down with rain. That’s part of the reason Irish people drink so much. I’m not joking either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Schnooks


    Racist (towards Chinese and Pacific Island colleagues, not me), extremely ignorant and literally quite stupid at times. Also they love to take the piss out of other countries but go mental when you do it back, generally not nice people at all in my fairly extensive experience of being there over the years with work etc.

    As I have heard many people say - Australia would be a great country, if it wasn't full of Australians!

    They weren't all bad of course and I did meet some good ones, but they had a fairly high proportion of complete w@nkers. Would never ask to go back there tbh, far better places to spend my time and money on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I loved it there, spent two years there. It's just too far from home for me to want to be there forever but really loved the place. The access to outdoors and the weather especially, and the fact they are pretty much the same culturally and speak English. Some of the places you can go to are incredible, having totally untouched pristine beaches to yourself.

    The food is great, best range of fish and seafood I've ever come across, they do some great beers too if you get away from the mainstream stuff. And so many vineyards you can visit.

    And as for racist, Ireland is the only place I've seen people shouting the N word at people walking down the street, or at black security guards etc. People in glass houses...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭HBC08




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,340 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I cannot stand their accent . I probably OD-on Neighbours in the 90’s . Also they’re quite annoying . Well the ones I’ve met . Met a couple in New York who just kept saying we’re from the other side of the world ,etc. . Though I’ve never been there I know where it is !!

    Great kissers though and very energetic 😷😷



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    The ones I've met here have been a bit brash. Maybe that's just the Aussies who travel.



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  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Been there 5 times to visit family. It’s grand like but a bit boring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    no offence but you mustn't have many interests yourself if you find australia boring



  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I’ve loads of interests. It’s a country with very little real culture and that shows. It’s good for outdoors stuff but it’s a bit empty. My parents who have been there many times agree with me. It lacks the cultural depth of Europe. It’s safe and slightly bland living which suits people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,726 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Quite honestly I could do subtitles to understand some of my fellow Countrymen here in Ireland, Danny Healy Rae for example, so I ain't gonna hold it against the Australian TV networks.

    Having spent time in Australia, I don't view all Aussies as a homogeneous group. There are native Australians and Irish Australians and Greek Australians and all sorts and they often have some of the national characteristics of their heritage, so like America, it's a melting pot.

    But in the main, I like people who have grown up in Aussie, they're pretty direct, like a good time, work hard and play hard. And they make the best of the weather that they get.

    But I've been in inland Queensland in 42 degrees surrounded by poisonous spiders and nothing but dry brush for a thousand kilometres and honestly I'd take my Irish Sunday hangover eating crisps and drinking Lucozade any day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,934 ✭✭✭buried


    God bless them for making the first two Mad Max films

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Schnooks


    I enjoyed alot of my time there too, But could not get over the ignorance, the sheer stupidity and brainlessness, and the racism I encountered almost daily against colleagues. I am big and bold enough to throw any mocking about the Irish right back at them, except maybe I was a bit better at it than them. This they did not expect and hated it, and used to get really annoyed about it. But the others in my company were not as comfortable in those back and forth situations, it was probably a bit lost in translation on them, so maybe I jumped in a bit on their behalf from time to time.

    Fully aware of some people in this country who are the exact same, as you decribed. No disagreement there, and no glass houses. We Irish can be an embarassment at times too, especially when abroad and drinking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Lacks cultural depth? Withdraw that comment immediately




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Don't know many Aussies, they seem grand but like any collection of stereotypical people they have their ups and downs.

    The country itself is somewhere I will never go though. Everything, EVERYTHING, wants to kill you:

    Killer spiders, killer snakes, killer octopus, killer jellyfish, killer fish (sharks, stonefish), killer reptiles, drop pandas, killer bees, killer shellfish, "pretty colour" killer snails, a fecking paralysis tick!, killer ants, killer insects in general, the most dangerous bird alive (cassowary), attack magpies, roos and wombats who like to fight, . Then we get to the weather, which can kill with its heat or cold, rip currents galore, heatwaves, 40ft waves...

    Nah, I'll stick with the lovely rain in Ireland, thanks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    Ive always found them a bit thick, spent a lot of time in Victoria State, Melbourne and Adelaide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I'll give them this: they don't go quietly into the good night when wrongfully arrested...




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    all i know is that they've been using a crafty new sophisticated plot to steal workers from various parts of the world.

    something to do with a proper salary or some such wizardry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭chosen1


    I toured around Eastern Australia for a couple of months a while back and I'd have to agree that the majority of men there would fit that category. There were of course some sound lads we encountered and the women tended to be friendly and outgoing.

    This was especially true in smaller towns and there was an obnoxiousness among the men there that I've never experienced anywhere before. They were worse again with drink on them.

    I likened them to the worst type of lout you'd come across in England and it might be fairly understandable, given the make up of the early settlers in the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    I lived over in Australia for 2 years. Ireland is definitely not on the same scale as Australia in the racism category.

    I seen it in city life but in the outback its just unreal.

    The aboriginal people are not respected by a large part of Australian society.

    Just as an example the mauroi people in newzeland.

    The newzelanders have the highest respect for the natives. This just inst the case at all in Australia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    I was there for 4 months and in those four months I witnessed and experienced more racism than I have in my entire life(excluding that time)...

    Openly being racist towards Asians and Pacific Islanders... absolutely disgusting, and it was very open and seemed to be accepted, i spent time in Sydney, Newcastle, Melbourne & Perth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    It's almost like the aborigines don't exist. I remember being in a lunch and someone brought up racism in the US. To paraphrase them: we don't have that problem here, apart from the abos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭tastyt


    I like the Aussies , they don’t apologise for who they are and don’t need to be loved or a pat on the head all the time and told how great they are by other countries. They make their rules for the good of the country and you abide by them of **** back to where you came from


    A stunningly beautiful place too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭orourkeda1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭Piskin


    I came across the best and the worst of people in Australia. Found most of them thick & obnoxious, akin to the redneck you will find in southern states in the US. The late Robin Williams called aussies rednecks with english accents. They have a serious identity crisis and they are obsessed with it, ie flags everywhere, media and in conversation with them it's not long before they bring up that they are australian etc. Great food, good nightlife and great beaches. Make friends with them and they are friends for life. There is an empty vibe due to that the people are not native to the land excepts the aboriginals. Loud and annoying and horrible obnoxious drunks. Aussie women will drop their knickers in a heartbeat and are mostly good company. Good place to get ahead but couldn't live there for the long term as it is bland & empty after a while, Kudos to them because they can run a country well and make the best of the outdoor lifestyle. In terms of running a country they are streets ahead of the inept stupid backward greedy corrupt powers that be in Ireland.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭Piskin




  • Posts: 693 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was there a few months ago & I found it an amazing place.

    I would seriously consider moving there only I'm the wrong side of 30!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭sunshine2018


    Australia is a beautiful country - Sydney has a fair few ‘up themselves’ people

    it’s gone very expensive

    they are poor losers in sport ! Always moaning about the result - the ref etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Schnooks


    That is exactly what my experience was, both in the large cities and even worse in the smaller places. And if anything, the women were even worse than the men with their openly racist comments, throwing the eyes up to heaven when Asian colleagues would walk into a bar, being rude and almost refusing to serve them etc.

    It may be a great country for outdoor stuff etc, but plenty other places are too, including Ireland. I do want to visit NZ and spend about a month travelling around, as I have heard nothing but positive accounts of the people, sights to see etc.

    But I will be bypassing Australia. Too many ignorant arseholes to be dealing with there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,726 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Why are they all up early on a Sunday doing out doors activities? do they not drink on Saturday nights? and if so, do they not drink that much? or are they still drunk/hungover while surfing/mountain biking etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I wonder what an Australians perspective on Irish peoples views on travellers might look like?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,737 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Reminds me of a joke an australian told me:


    "What's the difference between Australia and a tub of yoghurt?

    Leave the yoghurt alone for a few hunderd years and it'll develop its own culture."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Schnooks




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I found it to be similar, neither abs nor travs fit into modern irish/aussie society and no one wants anything to do with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Treated similarly from my experience.

    However on here that's nasty Australian racists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭niallpatrick


    It can't be all bad if Hugh Jackman is from Australia, the few interactions I've had with them were on line or in Dublin with one embarrassing experience an Aussie tourist taking over a tour group as a complete know it all, ignored he threw a hissy fit. On line Irish chat sites they're uber chucks when they find out you're from Belfast and expect a pat on the back 12,000 miles away.


    One other bad interaction which was completely our fault sort off was on the bus down to Dublin coming up to I think it was Dundalk theres an AOH? anyway massive brawl outside of it a wedding party, two Aussie surfer types on the bus said something like 'fantastic a proper Irish smash up' Oh and I'm crap at giving directions, get fuddled so when an Aussie tourist stopped me in belfast town centre wanting directions to the nearest KFC I was all 'ahm umm, dunno mate sorry' then realized what the hell am I apologising for? 12,000 miles to Ireland to eat a KFC whats wrong with the local food?


    The few interactions I've had don't speak for the entire sub continent, as for the weather native flora and fauna and the ingenious people it and they should be respected the same as ourselves when people come over, then again our largest native land predator is the ferocious stoat (I think ?)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    I've seen that one before.😂 The poor man just couldn't enjoy his succulent chinese meal in peace!😂

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Most of the aborigines are behind all the trouble in Alice Springs as well. Alice Springs is to all intents and purposes Australias version of Longford Town!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    well i mean they kind of just had this european society forced upon them and were supposed to adapt to our ways, not really fair on them. was the same in canada, all of the natives i'd see there were always drunk passed out on the streets and fighting etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,726 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Yeah well thats a great way to fight the system isn't it, just get hammered and start fights, that will really show them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    No it isn't really but it's easy for us to judge them as Europeans who didn't have a completely different culture and way of living imposed on them in relatively recent years.

    You sound like an Australian lol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I think one of the issues is that they never had alcohol so it really hit them hard, plus trying to bred out of existence would dampen ones spirit. The film Rabbit Proof Fence is worth watching.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    I have Australian 2nd cousins but they are 20+ years older than me due to my grandfather having children later than his sister. I couple of years ago I was speaking to one of them on Ancestry.com in the cousin match section. She replied a few times but in general I've noticed on that site that people don't really have interest in speaking with you. They are just on there for the novelty of it. I won't make the mistake of ever messaging cousin matches again.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,121 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I travelled around Australia and New Zealand for a month in early 2000 with a short stay with my first cousins who live on a big farm near Brisbane.

    My impression of Australians? Friendly in the main, very direct, outgoing, confident, headstrong, very outdoorsy (they have the good weather) and self-reliant. Not unlike the characteristics you would also see in many Americans. A “frontier” type mentality in ways.

    The overt racism expressed by so many Aussies I encountered was very noticeable and very, very bad. Not just in rural outback towns but in the supposedly sophisticated and cultured Sydney and Melbourne also. It’s a real bad mark against them as a people IMO. Most are also very uncomfortable talking about the historic mistreatment of Aboriginals.

    My late father really disliked Australians, including my uncle who owned the farm I mentioned earlier. He visited twice in the 1970s and 1990s and found Australians in his own words to be “boorish, rude, obnoxious, uncouth, uncultured, bigoted, opinionated and crass.” 😁

    I personally much preferred New Zealanders/Kiwis from my visit there - they seem much more grounded, informed, cultured and easygoing than Aussies and far less overtly racist in their views. Kiwis, I learned from being there, absolutely hate being mistaken for Aussies!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,726 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I remember meeting an Aussie girlfriend of my cousin, he is Irish. I was impressed at how confident she was, she came to our house and chatted away like she knew us for years, id say they are in general very sure of themselves which is a great trait I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,726 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Yeah well im sure the Irish travellers had similar experiences but its time to wake up and join the rest of us in the 21 century and stop living like savages.



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