Payslips going digital... Would you?

Why would anyone want a paper payslip. Haven't had one on over ten years. Awful yolks. I've my payslip in my phone anytime I want to review it.

Like downloaded to your laptop, in your email, hosted on the saas provider who's sole business is hosting payslip pdfs.

Its fairly ubiquitous at this point.

We have had electronic payslips in our ETB for years, and a couple of years ago we migrated to a new system, I think multiple ETBs are on it and we can login and get our payslips and they are all there. So far no problems with it. Not entirely sure what the payroll dept of my ETB do now, because they don't process payslips and anyone that has had a query about pay has got a 'not our department' type response from them.

Paper payslips need to be consigned to history. The postage cost alone is staggering. Take just Primary Teachers alone, serving and retired, who receive fortnightly payslips. Tens of thousands of recipients 26 times a year and millions of euro on postage.

It may be at this point for some, but not for all and even at that if you change jobs, roles, pay platform providers etc things can get lost misplaced or are no longer accessible. A printout of a payslip from a few times a year stored in a folder, scanned to somewhere you should always have access to is no harm.

Well, thats grand but as someone who has moved departments within the public service, moved into the Civil service, back out of the civil service to the public service while having a pension buy pack not long after entering the service initially, I can tell you that there have been multiple payroll staff, payroll departments, payroll software and indeed pensions discussions/clarifications needed while doing those moves. At some point in the future I know I will need to have records of these conversations/agreements etc and theres no one place I can go for that (and again, there are plenty examples of issues arrising close to retirement because records haven't been kept by some party, records not being available etc etc.

Granted it may be different if you've been a teacher in the primary school system all your career and it may be different for the past decade or so and moving into the future - I am just making the point that there's no harm having a few paper copies (that you print yourself) or scanned copies of payslips a few times a year that aren't in the primary storage location they are in.

All for digitisation of payslips BTW - just giving a bit of context around issues that can arise down the line and how best to try protect yourself if that does happen.

There is no issue.

I am just pointing out that you cannot and should not rely on another entity or person maintaining a record of your pay/pension arrangements over the course of a 40 plus year career - whether you receive the payslips electronicilly or in physical format.

So don't assume the employer maintains records of all of your payslips, don't assume you'll always have access to whatever portal/system/email address etc your payslips reside on and try and keep a number of payslips annually for the time that you MIGHT need them closer to retirement. This goes for any discussion around something that may impact on your pay, pension or terms of service.

I appreciate this is a teaching forum and things may be more straightforward.

Most recent case I've heard is where a person approaching retirement requested a pension statement (they were looking into AVC's and had received advise on how best to maximise their pension) on receipt of the pension statement the person was shocked to find that their pension lump and weekly sum was not what they had anticipated it would be. Opened up major issue for the person. It transpired that the person had not being paying as much into the pension as they should have (again this can be a complicated area depending on type of job, pension scheme, persons career history/career breaks etc)

Person had no record of their payslips going back to the times they were on breaks, was with another now defunct/merged department - an absolute MESS.

There were a few lessons to take from it in reality.

Keep an eye on your pension statement/entitlements as time goes on (not everyone will have a clean 40 years in one job). This ensures that if you are "underpaying" you have adequate time to correct it. Keep some records of your salary and discussions around same.

Happy to work for and get paid by the government but doesn't want to have a government ID. This place never ceases to entertain.

The MyGov profile and ID is to access certain public services that have nothing to do with salary for employment, irrespective of whether that employment is private or public sector.

I was in and out of public sector employment over the years. When pay payslips went digital, all I ever needed to access them was my staff number and a password of my choosing.

If any State body tries to insist on the use of a MyGov ID to access your payslips from them, tell them to go and fornicate with themselves. You are absolutely entitled to silo your private information and not have it pooled with a range of other public services, particularly given the long history of cases of other State employees being unscrupulous with data.

It's amazing how hard headed people are ...particularly when it comes to them thinking people are saying what they are not. It's like they read and hear what they want to read/hear rather than what's actually written or said.

I understand completely the main point you are making and think.its an important and helpful one to make (for those capabke of taking it on board)...their loss if they can't in preference to jumping down peoples throats and the substantive point passes them by.

You've mentioned a number of times now a printed backup is no harm (perhaps just once or twice a year) in the event you can't retrieve the digital version (for any number of reasons) and it could be very useful in the future should you have to prove anything anyone that cant grasp that just wants to argue against a point not being made by you I suppose!

I am curious why a system was set up that requires the use of the MyGovID to access payslips when it's simple to set up a system that doesn't use it.

Two words : Facial recognition .But of course if youre doing nothing wrong youve nothing to worry about .Countless examples of the integrity of the regime in the last while .Youd be mad not to keep one or two payslips a year .

The cdetb moved to electronic payslips - for part time teachers at least - in march of this year.

however they reduced the hourly rate at the same time. Has anyone else come across this?

I hate the paper payslip. absolute nightmare.

You paper haters trust the government to pay you your pension in the 2050s despite experiences with ‘emergency tax’ /SUSI delays / medical cards getting cancelled / forms getting lost in the post / interminable delays in pay for sec or even part time work in school.?I think this ( like someone said about marriage)is the triumph of optimism over experience .

For the first while you'll get both, and then the paper version stops coming.