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Bored and lonely in marriage

  • 21-04-2023 5:34pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19


    Hi, for the ladies on here-have any of you experienced being married to a man who has no interest in sex with you? We are together 20 years and honestly, sex has never been a priority for him. Initially I thought it was just his sex drive-then I realised he masturbates a lot-so thought it was me-now I realise he is addicted to porn. (As in, he prefers watching porn and masturbating to having sex) . I have always had a high sex drive and while I used to think I loved him enough to get thru it, I don’t and can’t anymore. He refuses to change-we’ve been thru it all-therapy, taking a break, all the rest. But god it’s lonely. We have kids and a big mortgage and separating is just not an option just now. I just hear all my female friends talking so often about how their man won’t leave them alone and they hate sex etc but have never met a woman who is going thru this. And for any men reading-i would love your honest opinion on it. Just not sure how much longer I can take it and have recently started thinking about just meeting someone for regular sex without the relationship, because, we’ll I’ve given him every chance-but I front wanna break up our family or end up with 2 homes with no money.

    any help really appreciated x

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Man here. He's not necessarily addicted to porn he just prefers masturbating to it than having sex with you. I mean I'm sure he'd have huge interest in sex if he could do it with the women he's watching. I've often lost interest in sex with a partner but it didn't mean I had no sex drive, they just didn't turn me on any more.

    If he's not willing to try anything or try and have a sex life with you, really all you can do is accept this and make peace with it or separate. Best of luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    Thank you-we’ve been through therapy and he has admitted he has an addiction and cannot stop, the psychologist has also diagnosed same. I have no issue with porn use-so it’s not that-i am open to use of porn in an otherwise healthy relationship-I really don’t want to come across as judgy or anything like that.Thank you tho for your reply. It’s good to get an outside opinion on it and I take on board your thoughts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    A man here. Stories like these seem to getting more and more common. Maybe it's the fact that porn is so much more accessible now. For what it's worth I used to be married but I did still mastubate at times but it never interfered with our sex life I definitely preferred sex with my wife. All I can say is best of luck OP porn addiction does seem to be a thing these days even though a lot of people dismiss it as nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    Thank you! It’s really difficult-if he drank too much it would be almost more socially acceptable to talk to friends about it-but this is a kind of taboo subject-I tried to talk to a friend about it a while back but realised quickly she was embarrassed and then I was and uggghhh. So anonymous on Boards it is😫😂

    Thank you for your honesty and perspective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭sugarman20


    That's a tough situation to be in OP. Porn addiction is a real problem and seems to be getting worse. Seems like you are doing all the right things but without result. If he's not prepared to at least reduce the amount of porn he's watching then I can't really see this situation improving.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Terrier2023


    Woman here, discreetly have an affair we are better at it and rarely get caught and if you are obliged to stay that is the best course of action or else occasionally hire a man and have a blast. Watch the film " Good luck to you Rio Grande " it will make you laugh and also show you there are a lot of ladies in this situation.

    Internet porn has wrecked a lot of marriages as the men do not have to account to a porn star, they can just log out, and they do but the frantic fcuking is un realistic, not to mention the pedophilic bodies shaven within an inch of their lives and their submissive stances makes men think all women should be like that..we are not .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Andrea B.


    Have you asked him as to where he thinks this will end up or what he expects will happen if nothing changes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    You have two choices. And bear in mind, your husband has already made his. Or rather, he is fully indulging his lack of engagement in the marriage.

    You can take a lover or lovers to satisfy your sexual needs (and as a sub-choice you can either do that and tell your husband, or not tell him)

    Or, you can end your marriage altogether and find sexual and relationship satisfaction with someone else.

    Admittedly, either your current situation or availing of the first choice will probably end your marriage ultimately anyway, so the question then becomes, do you want a clean out or a messy out?

    You are absolutely entitled to happiness and a good relationship and sexual satisfaction though, don't for one minute feel guilty for what decisions you may make to bring that about. These problems are not of your making.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭raclle


    Do not take this advice and have an affair because you will get caught and you will break up your family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    @terrier2023 thank you-just for the last few weeks a discreet affair is what I feel like pursuing the most. I’m just so fed up, I feel like he’s taken 20 years of my life that I won’t ever get back and I have given him every chance. Thank you for your reply



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    He possibly thinks you have lost interest in sex op, but loves you too much to leave you and has reconciled with living the rest of his married life **** alone whenever he gets the urge?

    I have been interested in pornography all my life, I really like it and have enjoyed the sexual thrill it gives me when masturbating, or not masturbating as can often be the fact, porn can be really funny as well.

    I have found that my interest in porn has really embellished my sex life and enabled me to enjoy more sex with more people who are thoroughly interested in having sex. Here lies one of life's great mysteries. I often felt a great a sympathy for really attractive people, as they tend to have ridiculously bland sex lives and quite often they develop aspersions towards potential partners as they have spent most of their lives being hit on or leered at by aspirational partners who haven't a monkeys chance of sleeping with them? They must develop a serious Radar for dealing with such tropes, probably on a daily basis?

    Out of interest op, have you attempted to share your partner's preference for pornography and tried to make it a more positive impact on your marriage with him? Would you not consider using it as an aphrodisiac, to enable him to focus his attentions more about having sex with you, as opposed to having sex with himself?

    You mentioned that you have a high libido, how does that manifest itself sexually for you? Have you secret liaisons? Or do you have a vivid sexual imagination that allows you to masturbate without the use of pornography. I do understand that many women prefer different styles of sexual fiction to stimulate or arouse them. Romantic novels can be very much the norm , but I remember a former lover who I met at work really enjoying hardcore erotic novels. Some of those are really sexy and well worth a read, you will be aching for a ride after, trust me.

    I would try to find out what type of filth he is watching. Check his internet history or just ask him? See what you make of whatever is currently titillating him and maybe throw yourself in there? 20 years is a long time op, there are plenty of partners out there up to all types of shenanigans in the bedroom, don't miss out, trust me. Pornography is not to be feared, it should be embraced and enjoyed for what it is.

    Get stuck in there op, it is rude to prude.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    @Andrea B. yep we have been there-he says he doesn’t know. He’s had a lot of stigma and shame in his childhood around sex and therapist feels this is part of reason why he feels the need to hide it away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭techman1


    For what its worth maybe your friends might be exagerrating a bit when they say that they can't keep their men away from them. Afterall its more acceptable as a woman to say that than the opposite. Its like young men bragging about all the girls they have been with to their friends when in reality they are barely with any girl. To be honest after a long marriage sex happens less and less anyway. I think your issue with your man watching porn is probably very common but as you say is a bit of a taboo, therefore probably not something women will talk openly to each other about. Therefore take some comfort that you are not alone and this is very common now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    @Larbre34 thank you!! Honestly the last part of your comment made me cry because really all I have felt is shame for years for practically begging for sex off my husband. And at times when I have instigated sex he has pushed me away and laughed. That coupled with the fact that I am surrounded by women who say they hate when their husbands want sex and how they can’t get into bed without their husbands looking for it had all really just made me feel like I’m the one with something wrong. Thank you for your reply.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    He doesnt think I have lost interest! Not on any level! He knows exactly how I feel. We used to watch porn occasionally-right from start of relationship-and yes it was great. But it was clear he was not really having sex with me-he was glued to the screen and tho we were together, in the oddly of it, I may as well have not been there. He was so detached from me in it all that it really broke me in the end and I told him I couldn’t do that anymore. Porn use is great-i have no problem with it-trust me-i am not a prude in any manner and have been open to anything-he has not tho. Before him I had a really great and healthy sex life-so I actually refuse to believe it’s me any more.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    It seems like you are blaming him for your own disillusionment in your sex life?

    Sex is a constant sacrifice of desires and wants, you need to share more, that is the secret.

    Do you still desire your husband, the tone of your posts seem almost derogatory towards him. Are you sure you are not deflecting a little?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    yeah you’re right my tone does sound derogatory towards him-i guess because I’m angry at the moment. I’ve spent a lot of time trying, doing anything that might excite him, make him want me, and, by the way, sharing everything. I have been really open. He makes promises that he will try harder-that he will instigate sex sometimes, that we will have more frequent sex-more than once every 6 months-if im lucky…it never happens. So yes, I’m angry-and just this week, I’ve hit a wall. And I don’t know if I can try any more. I am so aware that sex, and everything else in a relationship is about give and take, sacrifice, all of that, it’s just that it feels like I’m the one who has sacrificed everything. So today, I’m blaming him, absolutely. I’ve tried everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Count Dracula


    Don't blame yourself either.

    Relationships are not bombproof and rarely last for ever.

    I would be inclined to indulge yourself somewhere else and see how you feel about it. Sex is not a crime, go and enjoy yourself while you can, but don't blame yourself or your husband for that , just go and enjoy yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I always get admonished for this but I do think every long term relationship ends up sexless eventually.

    20 years is a very long time to for organic sexual interest to be maintained.

    "Mating in Captivity" by Esther Perel touches on the topic and would be an interesting read for you OP



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    Thank you, I agree actually! I reckon if there was a time limit put on a relationship-like you couldn’t date someone for more than 3 years or something-imagine how much more you’d want to stay😂I will look into this book👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,979 ✭✭✭YellowLead


    I do think you should move away from blaming him and see it as a both of you issue. You made then choice to marry him and have kids with him despite knowing he didn’t have much interest in sex with you, he didn’t force you to marry him.

    Why don’t you ask him if it’s okay for you to have a sex life outside the marriage? He might well agree if he has no interest in sleeping with you anymore, it would be the loud thing to do.

    It might seem like there is no way out with the mortgage but could you downsize etc.

    Aside from sex is there intimacy, laughing and joking together, any fun times at all?

    If not the sex is only the tip of the iceberg and the whole relationship is flawed.

    You should be able to enjoy a honestly sex life with your partner, don’t feel shame or guilt about that. Whether you get this from staying and sleeping with other people (hopefully with your husbands blessing) or initiating separation is up to you. Just know that if you stayed and slept with others that’s only a temporary solution because you will want to be with them fully and that’s not sustainable in the long run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    Thank you, and you are so right-my therapist said to me once has he ever really been any different or is it you that has changed. And yep-it’s me! I guess I thought the amount I loved him would be enough to get me through and that sex wasn’t important and I could live without it. But over the years I guess I’ve realised I can’t. I think it’s also important to say that after we were engaged was when I first realised how big an issue the porn use was and I told him I couldnt marry him, that the problem was too big. That was the first time he promised me he would stop. He said he would do anything to hold onto me. So I suppose I did marry him as he is, but I believed we had a chance at fixing it. But I do really take on board what you are saying. And I have been really thinking seriously lately about having that conversation with him about me being with other people. I’m afraid, but maybe it’s a short term answer at least. Thank you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Man here, so this perspective may be a little off. If you're together 20 years, you're quite likely in your 40s now and soon, if not already entering menopause. Which may or may not affect your own libido. My wife had a patch around that time when she wanted a separate bed/ bedroom and less sex. But if you don't use, you lose it and we kept it going and now still make love, less frequently than before. So you may or may not have a lessened need soon is what I'm saying. As regards the porn, I'd be asking him to regulate it - maybe week on/ week off. That should give him notions in the off weeks. But of course, if addicted - could be tough. But then that's marriage - there's two of you in it and he's no right to be a selfish prick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Hi, you as a woman and particularly a married woman, you have rights, as does he. That is the right to be loved and have your physical and emotional needs fulfilled.


    If he is not fulfilling your needs, you can either get those needs satisfied elsewhere, or break up. Simple as that really, you've given him the opportunity multiple times.


    The same if it was the other way around, if I wasn't fulfilling my husbands needs, or completely refusing to, yet wanting us to stay married, then I would expect him to look elsewhere for sex.


    However I know many people won't agree with my thinking on that, but so be it..


    In other words, get sex elsewhere, keep your happy friendship style marriage at home, if that's what both of you want. Have you spoken to him about the possibility of that side of things being open if he refuses to provide?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    Not yet but I think I’m going to do that this weekend. I think it’s time. Thank you so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭raclle


    If he's not I'd think very carefully about your next step. As you said you don't want to lose everything you have either. @Larbre34 summed it up best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,282 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Is there a chance that he has some perhaps specialised fetish interests that he's afraid to share with you?

    I'm not blaming you in any way, but maybe there's something that he hasn't yet brought out into the open. Just one option of you want to explore it.

    There are other kink lifestyle options that may be open to both of you to try to address this, but it's probably a bit extreme for public discussion here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    This comment essentially justifies cheating in nearly all relationships.

    Interesting



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,832 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    As a man, masturbation is fine and healthy.....however, jerking off to porn constantly rots your soul....ruins the brains interest in sex, erectile dysfunction issues....

    The husband needs to go cold turkey on the porn, no choking the chicken for a month......as a start.....


    Nothing will change unless this happens...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    It’s possible. I’ve asked him and asked him, I’ve tried to help him open up, I’ve told him Im open to anything and that I would love for him to share his fantasies and what works for him. There have been times that he has shared, and I have been so happy that he has and I’ve done whatever he’s wanted, and let him know that I love it when he’s open and honest, but mostly, he actually just laughs-to cover his embarrassment I think tbh…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,301 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I think Steven is right. This porn addiction is the problem . I never was and still am not a big porn watcher but I knew lads who would happily sit at home watching porn instead of going out and getting a ride . You have to find a way to get him off it . Maybe by sharing it with him and telling him you’d like to try a few things. But you have to get him off porn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭raclle


    I know right and some actually agreed with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    What did the psychologist recommend? Did they refer him for treatment or suggest anything? Has he tried to stop at all? Or does he just say I can't help it and that's that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    Yes he was referred on but he stopped after a few sessions and hasn’t gone back. He has mentioned going back again but hasn’t pursued and my own therapist has recommended that I don’t push him as it needs to be his own decision and also that at this stage I need to mind myself in it too. He said he stopped and I believe that maybe he did for a while but went back to it. This has been the pattern for the whole relationship really.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    I'd be so turned off him at this point. Are you even genuinely sexually attracted to him anymore? or has it been more of a case of trying to fix it because he's your only option at the moment?

    I'd be assuming this was never going to change, when you said you couldn't marry him he made promises that it would stop and you've been through therapy etc. and still no changes. The therapist was right that it has to be his own decision, but unfortunately some people will never get to that point.

    I definitely think you should ask the question sooner rather than later about opening the relationship, most likely he will say no. And at that point you will have a hard decision to make.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    Honestly it’s the age old thing of staying together for the kids and finances at this point..I know everyone says you could make it work and the kids will be fine-but we have no family near us and I just can’t bring myself to do it to them. I can’t. Despite it all, we are a good little family, he’s a great dad, and I don’t want to break us up. And when things are good between me and him-they’re really good. I just would love to actually feel physically wanted-by anyone at this stage! It’s a **** show. I get that it’s hard to understand that I won’t just leave him. I suppose there is no answer-it’s just a lonely place to be…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭TheadoreT


    The most telling line in your post is "sex has never been a priority for him". He's always showed you his level of interest in you sexually but you didn't accept that. These things never improve with time, only get worse.

    I don't think it's couples therapy you need, it's personal therapy for why you constantly chased something he wasn't willing to offer.

    Rejection breeds obsession. You're more into him because he's not that into you sexually, and the husbands you mention are more into their wives for the same reason. This dynamic gets exaggerated over time as the chaser repels the partner with thier neediness. It's not nice to hear but it's human nature.

    Mutual and healthy relationship are perfectly possible, but you need to hold out for the signs that you're getting everything you need and not settling and being in denial that things will eventually get better. Hard work and commitment alone unfortunately isn't enough to make someone want you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    It sounds like you need to have a friend with benefits you can't afford a divorce you can't afford to pay a mortgage your husband does,not want to change just be careful re safe sex avoid sti,s

    I'm presuming you went to a therapist that deals with relationship sexual problems

    This sounds like a problem discussed on newstalk I,m an adult podcast



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    Honestly it’s interesting to me that a few men have said they don’t really watch much porn-i genuinely thought all men did…it’s kind of refreshing tbh

    I have tried sharing it with him-I had to stop that tho because he was so detached from me and literally just staring at the screen while we were having sex-it was really upsetting but I kept it that way for a while because at least we were having sex right? Then it just got too much and I told him I couldn’t do it that way anymore because he really wasn’t having sex with me at all, in his head. I have shared with him what I would like also-he just does not seem to want to have sex with me. I don’t think I’m going to change it-or that he is. But thank you for your reply.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 daisyjones01


    Yep, you’re right. I actually agree with everything you’re saying. It’s not pleasant reading but it’s true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭dontmindme


    Hi OP, I can only think you must not have gone to the right therapist, one who will help you both to identify your issues, and I'm not talking about his porn addiction, or you not getting what you want. You haven't said how old your children are, but you must know that they are taking everything in of their Mammy and Daddy, even the parts Mammy and Daddy think nobody sees. Addiction is powerful and very damaging to a family and has long-lasting consequences that are passed on through the generations. I'd recommend you go to an addiction counsellor and/or go to a group like al-anon for partners of alcoholics. You could go and just replace alcohol with porn, the feelings will be similar. See if it helps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Leaving aside the quite a few trolling comments by new reg posters, I think people are overthinking this a bit.

    The husband here may simply no longer be attracted to his wife. That's neither a crime, nor does it mean that our poster is unattractive or not a fully sexual being. It's just a human condition that happens in thousands of relationships, sometimes within weeks of a relationship forming, sometimes after 40 years.

    It can be mutual, but it can be one-sided and certainly in terms of timing it nearly always is and that's just one of the myriad reasons that relationships end.

    I have a personal opinion that there are two things you can never get back, trust and attraction. Other people may have experienced that differently and Counsellors may have an opposing view from their wider experience, but for me it's like unringing a bell, they are fundamental and cannot be restored to a persons heart in the way they were to form the relationship in the first place.

    But in as much as losing attraction for a person is not a crime, failing to engage with the other person and be honest about it and working out the consequences for the relationship and the wider family is a choice to break trust. Rejecting sex without a conversation, replacing that sex with prolific and closed off masturbation and not considering or caring about the other person's response to that or their own needs, is a selfish breach of trust.

    And for me, our poster choosing to get sexual fulfilment somewhere else or ending the relationship or any other point on that spectrum, is an entirely legitimate response to that breach of trust.

    You might say that two wrongs don't make a right and why doesn't she simply masturbate to satisfy her own physical desires, but while masturbation may be enough for him, she is perfectly entitled to feel that it is not enough for her and does not give her whatever her sexual satisfaction consists of; another person's touch, physical contact, the communication, the emotional connection, the surrender, the unpredictability, the satisfaction of satisfying someone else - literally anything that solo play doesn't do and I don't think it's too much of a generalisation to say those needs tend to be more common for women than for men.

    But again, our poster is no less entitled to pursue her needs than he is, albeit the impact of that may hasten the end of the relationship, which begs the question, can the relationship be kept together for the sake of the kids or whatever, where there is a mutual understanding that the physical side is over and now a matter of each side getting their sexual needs fulfilled however they like? Or, is that impossible and intolerable and is a zombie marriage soul destroying for our poster and would it be just better for everyone to fully end the relationship to allow both sides start again?

    But as I said before, the poster is the no fault party here, she didn't change or break trust, she didn't place her feelings and desires above the other person, she's entitled to not be left unhappy by the consequences nor to feel guilty about wanting to fulfil her own needs and to have a full life, whatever that meaning is to her.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    I've deleted a couple of PUA style posts which are against the Charter here. Posters are reminded to post constructive mature advice when replying to threads in PI.

    Thanks

    HS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Can only speak for myself, might watch the odd bit a few times a year but that'd be it. It's very shallow and repetitive and nowhere near as attractive or satisfying as the real thing. Physical intimacy is where it's at. But sex can also be/ is often just functional, I think many longer married couples have a general regular schedule. You should talk to your husband, explain things again and come up with a time/ day that suits both of you - every Friday evening or every Sunday morning or every second Friday evening etc. (assuming neither ill etc) Not entirely romantic but that way both he knows and you know when you'll be at it. Many men like schedules and regularity and he really should be able to work around that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    yep possibly. again, not everyone will agree with me , i am not saying go do the dirt on your husband/wife etc BUT if two people really want to stay together for companionship/' habit/ convenience/ and one or the other is not providing or fulfilling the human needs such as sex, then it's time to have a conversation about either getting that elsewhere, or breaking up..


    i have been in that situation where my LTR bf refused sex and i told him well if you're not giving it to me i will be looking elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Is this guy engaged enough to care if you had an affair?

    Having an affair could possibly satisfy your needs if you meet a decent lover. However, bringing in another person/s brings its complications too. Another person will inevitably bring their own emotions/desires/wants - and even if you set out rules of sex only this will often lead to someone wanting more. And that could be you.

    If you live in a rural area - people take an unhealthy interest in other people's lives - the knock on effect of having an affair might be socially awkward. Who knows. You might be someone who can handle that.

    Nevertheless, the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting... You deserve to try to make yourself happy. And it seems like you've bent over backwards to try with your husband. It sounds like you have no choice but to pursue other avenues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭screamer


    Sex is one thing, outside of that does he show you any attention or affection? Does he talk with you about how your day went, do ye spend any time together? Sex is not everything, but I think honesty is the best policy here tell him how you feel, tell him how the lack of intimacy is affecting you, and tell him that you need it and you’re thinking of looking elsewhere for it, see what he says to that. At least give him a heads up on it, because I think cheating is a one way door to ruin a marriage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Affairs are just a bad idea. End of story. Honestly, if the genders were swapped I doubt the women here would encourage the man to have an affair.

    As you said yourself "I don't wanna break up our family or end up with 2 homes with no money."

    So your choices are A: continue on, or B: have it out with your husband and find a resolution.

    There's a root cause to this and you have to find it. Maybe it is a porn addiction, in which case both of you NEED to deal with it, and there NEEDS to be consequences if he doesn't engage. And really, the root cause could be anything. Maybe he doesn't find you attractive anymore, or maybe he doesn't find himself attractive and has confidence issues. Maybe porn is just easy, and sex is too much work because he's unfit. Could be many things, but you need to discover it before you can fix it.

    You're likely only in your 40's or 50's, only halfway through life and there's plenty of sex to be had. Hard conversations, and hard decisions, and both of you need to deal with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 GoatGirl


    Yes, in all 'normal' relationships, sex diminishes over time. However these relationships have been filled with years of sexual attraction to each other, respect and understanding. OPs relationship is not like that...its not case of natural deterioration. There probably is very little respect in the relationship too by the sounds of it.

    OP has had years of rejection, this will lead to all sorts of problems. The husband is controlling while being completely emotionally disconnected from her.

    I would say walk away from the marriage, with your head held high, and the new opportunity to explore your options and needs. Or stay. But you know what you are in for, it's not going to get any better, so get some 'toys' that meet your needs and live on. It's a lonely place be in, but once you stop letting him control your happiness, you can get on with your life.

    Don't however bring someone else into the relationship. That is only going to make a bad situation worse, and inevitably you will end up where you don't want to be.



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