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Anyone else waiting for a new Honda?

  • 13-03-2023 4:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭


    I ordered a new Honda in July 2022. I was told then, that I'd have it in March 2023. Now I'm being told May 2023.

    Is anyone else in the same boat?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    There isn't a Honda available today that I'd be willing to wait that long for... It'll be obsolete by the time you get it.

    My guess is the dealer is a messer... I'd be asking for a copy of the purchase order where they placed the order with Honda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,435 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    serious delays in delivery of new cars due to supply chain issues, surely bikes are in the same boat?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    This is coming from Honda and being passed to me by my dealer. He most certainly is not a messer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,963 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    I'm waiting on a new Goldwing DCT








    The dealer is waiting for payment though 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 abmoto




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,963 ✭✭✭D3V!L




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Welcome to my world.

    I gave up getting a new one, and bought a 6mth old one in NL and rode it home.

    Sidebar: official dealer support for GW here is non-existent. Will probably ride to UK for servicing.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭PopSensyDad


    Wonderer78 is right. Japan Honda issued an apology for delay in delivery, at the page top of all models including Goldwing CVT. (https://www.honda.co.jp/info/20220617a.html , 28 Dec 2022)

    The listed reasons are:

    • supply chain disorder since Covid
    • marine transportation melee
    • semiconductor supply shortage

    It also explains the current situation continues for the time being. In Japan, there are lots of post mourning about waiting too long time to receive their bikes already paid (many are over 6 months). I hope your Gold arrives soon...

    edit:

    Opps Dual Clutch Transmission not Continuously Variable Transmission, sorry. I nearly made Gold into PCX (haha).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Have recently decided I'd like to get the new TransAlp. Will wait to see what the guy at the bike shop says about when I can actually get my hands on one.

    I know a guy who ordered an X-ADV a while back. When it finally came, it wasn't even in the colour he requested, so he didn't go through with the purchase.

    Sounds like things are a bit of a nightmare at the moment.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 724 CMod ✭✭✭✭LIGHTNING


    I am waiting 2 months for a new Hornet but thats only cos I want it in black, could have had a white or yellow one the next day.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 abmoto


    I hope the Transalp frees up a few decent Teneres into the used market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600


    i ordered a bike elsewhere, a year waiting on one specifc honda to come in, i gave up. Bikes being advertised here that they didnt have, and other dealers advertising the same bike - but yet there wasnt one to be had?! joke.


    for anyone looking at the new transalp, reviews far and wide are raving about it, its not a true off road trailie, but will handle light dirt and all day road comfort etc. Looks tall but ppl 5'6 can get both feet on the deck. its one of them bikes, looks a bit naff in pcis, but id sday its better up close in the real world.

    the price , finish, engine etc and everything else it has, imo it far superseeds anything else in the market for the money. Only drawback is no DCT, that a bit sh1t, as the DCT is fantastic.

    new honda displays are excellent along with modes etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    The Transalp looks nice and seems like a good bike, bar the fact that it's not off-road oriented... I'd be inclined to go for and Aprilia Taureg, which is very capable on and off road and seems to fit in the same category. It's also available to buy, which helps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600


    cant knock the Tuareg, and full dealer support also, like the honda.If you were green laning etc, the Tuareg is more of both worlds i agree, but for the majority of riders the Transalp will be ideal @ 12.5k appx - i now see the tuareg is down to 13800 for the standard colours now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭TheRona


    I've been told that the Transalp will be out in May for grey, and June for the other colours. I was hoping for a DCT bike, but the quickshifter on the Transalp will have to do. I've been told I'll need to put a deposit down soon, but it really comes down to how much I have to pay after trading in my bike and getting the few extras I want on the Transalp.

    The only think putting me off is the tubed tyres. No idea why Honda went tubed. It's clear that it's mainly a road bike that can handle some light off road, so it doesn't really make sense to go tubed. I've heard horror stories about tubes, really making me question whether I want to go for it or wait for something else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600


    tubed wheels can be a PITA, they do have tubed on another variant of the larger AT so i was curious why they did it on the transalp. but then , how often do you get a puncture? it could be, i dont know for sure, that honda may release a DCT later in the year with tubeless tyres, but its hard to know.

    i think its a cracker of a bike, not gone on looks, but i think the bike will be better up close like i said.

    id shop around on a trade in, as some are in cahoots with each other 🤐. Last year a lot of the smaller adv350 scooters were scooped up immediately, so if you want an translp, id get doing the legwork. Aftermaket parts will be availabe everywhere, so i wouldnt be sticking your neck out for the pricey honda OEM parts - unless the dealer was doing you a deal.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 724 CMod ✭✭✭✭LIGHTNING


    I should have my hornet before then which is the same engine,gearbox,dash and other bits. Happy to show it to you when I get it (hopefully next month)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Sounds good, thanks. I was contemplating the Hornet, but thought the TransAlp would be better as a year-round commuter. I'm over 6' tall as well, so not sure how small the Hornet would feel. I don't think the TransAlp is worth almost €3k extra, though!



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 724 CMod ✭✭✭✭LIGHTNING


    I had a CB500x last year and I found it a bit of pain in Dublin traffic. It was nicer travelling on motorways etc but not that much nicer than my previous naked. As you said I don't think the TransAlp is worth the 3k extra for basically some screen, studier frame. It is a nice looking bike though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭TheRona


    I've had the CB500X the last few years. Funnily enough I don't mind it around town, it's on the M50 etc where I don't like it. The gearing is just too low. I don't use 1st gear very much, and when you're cruising at 100km/h it's buzzing at probably 5k+ rpm.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    The Honda I'm waiting for since July 2022, is the NC750X DCT.

    What's annoying is, there are new ones sitting in German Honda showrooms for sale but I can't have one until May, hopefully!!



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 724 CMod ✭✭✭✭LIGHTNING


    Yeah I found it really poor on the motorways, there was quite a lot of vibs on the footpegs and grips. Ironically enough my single cylinder Husky is more comfy long distance and its a naked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600



    thats why i went elsewhere , new honda bikes appear to be all over europe but none here - what does that tell you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    When you say "elsewhere" do you mean you're buying a new Honda outside of Ireland or did you go to another brand?

    I've asked a couple of dealers in Germany if they can export a new bike to Ireland without VAT. No replies yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Theres a place in Gorey that seems to be bringing in brand new bikes from Germany... At least I've heard of them bring in Moto Guzzi's.

    I think they're called Overlanders or something similar...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭TheRona


    I called past my bike shop today, and he said there will be plenty of Honda stock arriving in June.

    Right now, I think I'm going to hold off on ordering a bike. The new Hornet is too small, the TransAlp has tubed tyres, and the NC750X doesn't have as much power as I'd like. If only they'd put the new Hornet/TransAlp engine in the NC, or put tubeless tyres on the TransAlp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    I suspect this year will be the last of the current incarnation of the NC. The next model will have the new 750 twin engine and twin disks at the front. All of this is just MHO.

    EDIT: I'm in my 8th decade so I'm not going to wait around for a new model :)

    Post edited by WestWicklow1 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt



    shouldn't be any reason not to, but some won't just because of the bother with the paperwork. Did you try Netherlands ?


    Loving the colour on this: same as my Wing: Pearl Mud Grey

    https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=364050597&lang=de&utm_source=DirectMail&utm_medium=textlink&utm_campaign=Recommend_DES&vc=Motorbike

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600



    bikeshop in kells, co meath.....he's sourced a couple of bikes for me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    I've been talking to a main Honda dealer in the Netherlands for the last few days regarding a new NC750X. Got a price (without their VRT, which turned out to be almost the same amount as our VRT). They'd refund the 21% Dutch VAT after I provide proof that I have paid Irish VAT. Got a price from Jarvis to bring it home. Asked the Dutch dealer for an invoice this morning and he replies to say that they've just registered it and put it on demo so it can't be sold to me without their VRT.

    The search goes on...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Is this Honda Dealer also a KTM Dealer, are they based in Dublin?

    If so, that's the problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt



    This is where I got mine: has sold a good few bikes to Ireland, so not unfamiliar with dealing with us - might be worth a try: https://www.premiummotors.nl/

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600


    i gave you a suggestion of who may be able to source you a bike , did you call them ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    Any hope you can explain? PM is ok if you wish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    I did ring "bikeshop in kells, co meath". Gave my details and the bike required. I'm still waiting for a callback.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Banzai600


    he will dont worry, CC are busy but will come back to you. if you dont hear anything give him a buzz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,161 ✭✭✭cubix


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,522 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Change out the front sprocket for one with one or maybe two more teeth - easy fix.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Yeah, I had considered that a while back. I wasn't sure how much it would affect torque in higher gears, considering it's pretty gutless already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,522 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Well if you don't have enough torque in a higher gear, change down 😎

    I used to ride a 600, very fast when you kept it spinning but you could have to change down 2 or even 3 gears to overtake. No big deal.

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭chasm



    Wow Honda offers a lot to a buyer there! 1 year all risk insurance and 5 year warranty!! The Uk offers free Datatag and 2 year warranty, Ireland, we get a 2 year warranty! Think i might reconsider buying a new bike here 😑



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt



    You're not comparing apples with apples though.

    1. In the first instance, what insurance is on offer in UK/NL is of no consequence to here, as it doesn't cover you here.
    2. Whilst a longer warranty is a 'nice-to-have', it's the same bike you're getting, so the warranty cover isn't going to affect your likelihood of needing it. UK warranty an RoI are the same, at 2 years.
    3. And, if you buy a new bike in (say) NL, and bring it in here, don't expect Honda here to help you out on any warranty-related items.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭chasm


    The point I was making is they offer better deals in other countries, wasn't in any way implying I could bring it here and have the insurance cover or warranty.

    I've bought a few bikes new in this country, and we get feck all extras. I understand it is because we have a smaller pool of bikers, doesn't make it fair though, and as said I'll stick to secondhand now I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,522 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's because there's a very very long tradition of importers here screwing us to the wall and getting away with it.

    Once they have your money they don't give a fúck. Warranty claims? 🤣 Recalls? Nah, don't exist in Ireland.

    Of course what is on offer in other EU countries is of consequence. The euro in my pocket are just as good as someone in NL

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    You're preaching to the converted: I bought my GW in NL.

    You're right about recalls & service: you're on your own.

    Special offers of warranty or cheap finance etc are only of no consequence to use in RoI as we can't access them, that's my point. If I was living in NL it'd be great.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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