Gangland Shootings part 4 - Read OP before posting - updated 30/12/23

This is amazing.

JD: "They (the cops) came in (to Patsy's house)… and they seen a bleeding Ford key right, so whatever cop put it down asked about the key, went out to the avenue checked every van, car the whole lot in the avenue for this Ford f**kin key, nothing was there for it."

GH: "He's thinking that could be off the f**kin Ford van."

JD: "Off the main van Transit right, so they f**ked off but they came back on the Thursday say."

GH: "And they had to prove what the car, and they went to the key technicians and they told them the Reg did they."

JD: "No. They never took the key, forgot to take the key, this is how stupid they are."

GH: "Ah for f**ks sake."

JD: "Right so then they went back to Pat's, went in looking for the key, raided the gaff again, we're here for the key where's the key, he says I don't know what key you're talking about. He had a big box of bleeding keys."

Why or more specifically what was speculated as the reason that Colm Fox killed himself?

These lads have $5m bounties on their heads, they have their molls, kids, extended family members, business associates and 'friends' hanging around, must be at least 100 all told, they must be living a 'normal' life to some extent (schools, hospitals etc), and the cream of our investigative journalism don't appear to have a clue where they are, they seem to come up with some new country every second week. Surely it can't be that hard to do a reccie on them.

Indeed. But the trial that collapsed was concerning another Patrick Hutch - would this be the "patsy" hutch he was referring to?

These state job merchants usually need to be dragged kicking and screaming before they are forced to resign

Holding their hands up?

admitting to anything?

I don’t believe any of this farce

You are correct. My error.

Prior to the recent trial he was a carpet fitter who essentially as the lawyers say was of good character. There was some chat on this board in last year another poster was of the belief he did some modest time inside due in 80s to a charge re small fraud. Whether that was said to be on remand or he was convicted don’t recall.

He was a Detective Superintendant in his 50s who was leading the investigation; explain how allowing for his experience it was a 'procedural' error. The reports at the time:

' In a voir dire, or preliminary examination, Det Gda Fergal O'Flaherty and Det Gda Jonathan Brady said they had identified Patrick Hutch as the man in the wig. The method of that identification came under intense scrutiny. The gardai said Det Sgt Patrick O'Toole had brought them to a room at Ballymun Garda Station, which was manned by Gda Michael Ryan.

All four said detectives O'Flaherty and Brady named Mr Hutch separately, while the defence claimed there was evidence they did so in each other's presence, which could have compromised their identifications.Ultimately, the court ruled - on February 2 last year - the identification was admissible.

Mr Justice Tony Hunt said the court was satisfied detectives O'Flaherty and Brady had separately identified the person in the photo as Mr Hutch, and there was "no basis of contamination by nomination".

However, before the trial could resume, the defence sought disclosure of emails between the gardai.

"This is all very mysterious and elliptical," Judge Hunt remarked at the time.

Michael O'Higgins, defending, explained that an issue had arisen in relation to garda statements, matters that were omitted and new statements that came together and "hit every single note on the scale".He had made a case in legal argument that the statements were a "blatant and obvious cog from one to the other", which was not accepted by the prosecution.

Mr O'Higgins said he was looking for material in relation to "contact they may have had with regard to those statements".

Three days later, on Saturday, February 10 last year, Det Supt Colm Fox was found dead at Ballymun Garda Station.

yeah but they also often said in the papers that Eddie Hutch wasn't involved in organised crime except .... 'A bank account containing €160,000 in Eddie Hutch’s name was found and seized by CAB' https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/who-are-the-hutches-a-profile-of-the-dublin-family-1.2527930