Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

That doesn’t answer my question. You’ve re-used that trope incessantly. Have the moral courage to stand over your assertion. Identify the segments of society who you perceive to be the ‘anti-immigration guys’. Perhaps it’s time to acknowledge that you’ve constructed some malignant cohort in your own head, No?

Whilst it’s incredibly tedious, I’ll indulge your disingenuousness once again. There was a 500% YoY increase in asylum applications from CY 2021 to CY 2022. It would be relatively straightforward to restore some order, by reversing course on Roderick O’Gorman’s ‘own door’ accommodation strategy. Put the word out that Ireland has had a rethink; the standard mode of accommodation going forward will be dormitory-style. Enforce a decent % of deportation orders. Do not pursue a self-deport policy. Actually deport failed asylum seekers. Step up checks to further drive down the numbers arriving sans documentation.

The second migration channel currently being roundly abused is the English language visa factories, primarily by ‘students’ from Latin America. Shut down the bogus colleges, which are essentially a thinly veiled front for people trafficking and eliminate employment rights for ‘students’. Watch the numbers entering the country drop precipitously via this channel.

Neither approach contravenes ‘international law’ and will not make Ireland a pariah state, no matter how badly you desire that to be true.

I do not recall one person on this thread arguing that we should push back against intra-EU freedom of movement. In fact, virtually all of Ireland’s migration needs can be satiated by a bloc of 450 million fellow EU/EFTA citizens.

You’re now making stuff up to deflect yet again. Within the last few pages of this thread, you’ve claimed that protestors in local communities were ‘targeting refugees’, you’ve reiterated your ‘anti-immigration guys’ nonsense, and are now arguing against a point that nobody has actually made. Keep going. It’s entertaining witnessing the mental gymnastics on display to support an increasingly threadbare narrative.

EU law is not the only thing at play here. There is also the 1951 Refugee Convention and the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), both of which Ireland is a signatory to.

A lot of these laws about asylum seeker rights were put in place post world war two when the world was a very different place. It was pre smuggling gangs and pre-tictoc.

Ireland failed to provide for an Afghan? I would imagine a genuine asylum seeker would be someone bombed out of their house in Belfast. They just make a short trip south. That would make sense. But this?

When they have this phrase "housing for all" they really must literally mean ALL. Like literally anybody from literally anywhere in the planet.

The court just found there is.

So this "17 year old" arrived with no documents and we are just supposed to take his word for it, no wonder he travelled through various safe countries before coming here because he knew full well they wouldn't put up with any of this nonsense.

No fear Gibney mentioned any of this during her soft interview with RTE on Friday.

Will they? Where are those voters going to go?

Through ignorance and lack of interest in looking at policies SF or the SDs maybe, as ridiculous as that sounds

If someone is that ill-informed and disengaged to think they'd get more restrictive immigration policies from SF or SDs I doubt they'd bother voting at all...

Doesn't matter, it's the party leadership that determines policy and they're showing no sign of changing course...

You just said there is no legal obligation. The court found there is. Your argument has been proved wrong by the court judgement.

I think people underestimate the disdain many people have for SF. Despite social media hating the big two, the party most didn't want to see in power according to exit polls at the last election was SF.

Anyways off topic, so apologies to the mods.

I do think/agree that's immigration is unlikely to get people elected as single issue candidates, however I think the governments handling of the last few years will influence where votes go. How many I'm not sure

I would like just like to say in relation to videos of late. A guy dumping off on a roof of a car (didn't see that one and probably won't look it up), a guy going after women with a hammer, an African woman doing some weird ritual dance in Mullingar (clearly mentally ill), Somalians and Algerians throwing chairs at each other and of course our friend threatening social services while watching an enchanting Nikki Minaj video.

This ladies and gentlemen are our saviours who will fund our pensions.

Oh heck!

The UK had a recent PM (Truss) who had a policy of spooking the corporations and very nearly crashed the entire economy overnight : she is believed to have cost her country around £40bn in the process. These type of populist cranks should be allowed nowhere near any government.