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I brought it up for discussion..so quit your smart arse replies.

Plenty online discussion asking similar. The chap was alert, lucid and as soon as the count hit 10 he got up. Nobody is saying the shot didn’t hurt. But these are boxers. Supposed to be the hardest and toughest and most resilient men in sport. I’ve seen countless boxers hit with hard body shots, in real pain and sucking it up to get up.

Garcia, to me seemed to decide he wouldn’t suck it up, not that he couldn’t. He even said as much in the press conference. And his responses to Jim Gray in the ring were far from convincing.

Go watch Gatti v Ward where Ward landed vicious body shots on Gatti who sucked them up and decided to fight on. These shots, after many hard and brutal rounds.

Like said. Brought up merely for discussion. If you have any intelligent counter responses on what you think, show me. But don’t come on here engaging me trying to be a smart arse.

What was he meant to be like? He had just been stopped while alert. There wasn’t any controversy or anything like that. It’s not like referee stopped the fight where Ryan was protesting. All he could say were respectful things really.

Post fight presser straight off the bat making excuses. Talking about feeling weak and straight to 140. In other words the opposition made we weight drain with their clause and it really affected me.

Pretty much all boxers come out with the same cliche “I got no excuses,” but… hours later and they’re full of excuses..

Garcia is just another manufactured hyped fighter in the era of hyped social media presence. His first fight against a quality opponent and he folded. I have watched it back. Convinced he didn’t want to try to continue..

Even Tank was surprised.

After KD in rd 2, Garcia’s body language changed to timid. He got hit with a good shot (he himself twice said a good shot, not a great or not hard or not painful shot), and took a knee and in that moment he made a conscious decision that he wouldn’t get up, not that he couldn’t. His answers to Gray in the ring and his answers in the presser pretty much said this.

I think there is a point in suggesting Garcia quit. That shot hurt him enough to put him down. He wasnt going to be able to defend himself against DAvis and would have been a sitting duck but he didnt fancy getting ironed out. He knew the game was up. Surely he could have got up and thrown a big swing or tried to tie Davis up and get to his corner. Predictable outcome but unspectacular.

What are you on about? I said it's a tough way to lose because you still have your wits about you. How can you not understand that.

He was going to lose anyway but I think he'd have preferred to be hit hard or lose a decision than lose that way. It's just a tough way to get stopped. I'm not talking specifically about this fight. I know guys who got stopped that way and it's harder to take.

There's no doubt about who was the better fighter. I'm not saying he was unlucky either.

I was impressed by Garcia's post fight interview. Have you seen that?

Says the chap making countless excuses last week for Joe getting clearly beaten.

why are your responses always so aggressive? Folks can have differing opinions without the stupid and clueless guff being thrown at them..

Garcia showed no desire/want to tough it out, get back up and fight on. He practically said it himself that maybe he could have gotten up.

You need to watch a lot more examples where boxers were in serious distress and hurt and toughed it out. And then maybe your clueless comment won’t seem so smart.

it’s not like Ryan was getting beaten up, broken down, hurt, badly tired…

squinn says it: rather than continuing and likely getting sparked out, he decided to call it a day.

He was very humble and respectful after the fight. No guff about a rematch and that it'd be different the next time.

He stayed up after the punch and then went down. As I said if he was a quitter he wouldn't have stayed up.

I've been to hundreds of fights, I know a lot of fighters, mostly amateur, and I've seen this happen many times. I've seen it happy to fighters who were winning their fights. They try and continue but the pain is just too much. It happens very quickly just like it did to Garcia.

The lad was unbeaten coming into this fight, you don't go unbeaten for 23 fights if you are a quitter. He got rocked before and fought on.

To suggest he quit is stupid.

If you knew the fighter or he had previous for it then it's ok to think that but he's never shown anything like that in his life. There's no history of any sort. And he got rocked in a fight before and didn't quit so he's actually got form for fighting on when things went wrong.

So it's completely stupid to even think that nevermind post it on a forum.

careful now @walshb or you will be challenged to meet up for an IQ test

you should know after last week that the only opinion that is valid around here now is that of the mighty eagle eye

He’s clueless, and stupid!!!!!!

Also, notice when he’s down. He gives the odd wince as if to show he’s hurt, but it looks almost deliberate. He over-played the shot/hurt. Absolutely did. It was not a shot that came close to crippling his chances to continue.

He couldn’t even say that it was a great shot. He said he was caught with a good shot. So if it was just a good shot, what’s the issue, Ryan?

Then in post fight presser the whole weight was what he was going on about.

Been around boxing far too long to look at that and think it was anything other than a fighter simply not fancying it. Unless boxers these days really have weakened?!

Spot on. I’m a bit surprised some cannot see this as being a genuine angle/view.

Just on the shot: when it landed it is a full four seconds until Ryan drops down. I know there can be delays, but he was moving backwards, and Tank was pressing forward. What I think happened was that Ryan felt it as a good shot, and had also felt Tank’s overall power during the rounds, and like a domino effect he took the knee to stop the follow up attack, and whilst on his knee he realised that this was it. Rather than get up and fight on, he felt that he’d get proper banjoed; he then decides to stay down!