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No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭straight


    Sinn Féin would be like Liz truss. All she wanted was growth, growth, growth and look at what happened to her.

    To all those people complaining about how terrible things are in this country should probably try looking around the world at other countries and how they are faring in comparison. The problems we have here are largely caused by a booming economy. Crash the economy and you will fix alot if them. It you will have other bigger problems.

    I'm not political or anything but I find it tiresome to hear people always blaming the government for their own failures. Get of your arse and make it happen yourself like the rest of us.

    And as for all the moaning about planning interference. Well, I'm sad to say that without interference there would be nothing allowed happen with the stupid non sensical planning system in this country.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭endainoz


    By far the biggest failure of this government has been their housing policy, which is not something that happened overnight. They have been in power for over 10 years and it will be their lasting legacy.

    Would sinn Fein have a better housing policy? Possibly, but the previous government has driven 1000s of workers away from the country due to their awful policy so there is no quick fix for this and it will in all likelihood get much worse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    The country's population has grown by half a million or something in the last decade. No party are/were going to cater for that. It's affecting housing, health, education, etc, etc. SF are pandering the absolute useless in society where the "someone else pays" mentality is rife and where they milk the entitlement notions that people have.

    There is little to no incentive for working when ya can get so much for doing nothing



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭DBK1


    +1 on all of this. I was just going to post something very similar but you summed it up better than I could.

    A lot of the people that complain about everything don’t realise how a lot of countries are so mush worse off than us here. Yea it’s not perfect here and there are obviously things that could, and probably should, be better than they are, healthcare in particular, but by and large we have a good and generally well-off country to be living in.

    The “get off your arse” statement is a million percent true as well. Far too many in this country happy to do nothing and keep the hand out looking for more all the time. They’re generally the ones that do the most complaining too as they’re the ones with the free time to complain.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,562 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Years ago sitting having a lunch break with a few lads. It was just as the bust was midway. There was 2 lads in particular complaining about how the way lads with a few bob made money

    I just pointed out that this was an opportunity to make money. Most of us had a few bob and the two moaning had it as well. One lad would not spend Christmas. I said there was a great opportunity to buy cheap property and rent it and see where things went in 5+ years time.

    All they could speak about was that ''it was hassle renting houses''. TBF at the time there was serious issues with it. However nothing lasts forever is my motto. I just pointed out to them that

    '' nobody will hand you over money for doing nothing or virtually nothing making money is always hassle ''..... expect for some public service but not even all of them. There are some tremendous workers on the PS, where it fails is that those that want to do nothing do not suffer any conquences.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,520 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Anyone watching the gigginstown sale. The lad leading the first bull around had a lucky escape, the bull turned on him



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,768 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Well of course they are, but they're also pandering to anyone under 40 that will be more likely to vote for them. It's always easier to be in opposition and to criticize than to be in power yourself.

    Your always going to have people who don't want to work and want handouts, but they can't all be painted with the same brush because they can't afford a place to live. It's because of **** policy and not enough social homes.

    What's actually wrong with building fcuking houses? Is it begrudgery that a person gets it for nothing, or next to nothing? Is it a better option bouncing them around in hotels and costing money anyway? A small bit of socialism isn't actually a dirty word and can work, capitalism is supposed to breed competition but all it actually does is create monopolies.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    There is vast long term dereliction across every town and city under FFG watch for decades now cos they refuse to implement various reports on the matter in case it upsets their big developer and landlord pals. Add in the 200k empty homes in the state and you see the situation is no accident but very much a product of FFG crony capitalism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Developers in Dublin alone r sitting on 40k permissions - so more developer led planning that gave us the likes of Fire safety issues, Mica etc. that r set to cost the taxpayer billions to fix is not the answer. The entire housing policy of FFG is to keep property values as high as possible



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    In fairness its the DUP and their fellow travellers that have done the damage up there in terms of the current NI situation. I think folks down here in the South have no idea of what nationalists communities have had to put up with that lot for the past 60+ years



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,775 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,567 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Decided today might be the day to spray out the supersoil we bought.

    Sprayed an acre with light milk and molasses mix.

    was spraying the supersoil and the pump stopped pumping. Stripped and rebuilt it twice, finding nothing wrong but it just wouldn’t pump. Got 3/4 out but play was called off then.

    still enough to see if it’s a thing or not.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    +100. Only by chance came across the troubles podcast this week, it gives a fairly neutral view from what ive heard so far but it was absolutely eye opening to hear how the nationalists/catholics were treated up there how it was allowed to happen is beyond me.

    How can Sinn Fein be blamed for the situation in the north at present when they were never the majority until now? The only reason theres no assembly there now is because the ball is out of the DUPs court for once and they are throwing their toys out of the pram because of it.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,520 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Was on mart eye, lot one. Not sure if you can watch it back



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Imo the unionists are doing themselves an injustice by saying 'no'. Voters are fed up of electing ppl who don't take their seats. NI has the best of both worlds the UK and English markets. If I was an FDI and the situation was stable I'd locate there.

    With regard to nationalist not getting a fair deal it's not black and white. Example: Jean Mc Convillie returns to West Belfast in her coffin and SF orders everyone inside....pure sick.. justify that.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,889 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Barry Humphries died today. I never really got the whole Dame Edna persona but Les Patterson and Sandy Stone were both class acts.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm a child of the late 1970's so I grew up during the 1980's watching the news, that's the reason I won't vote SF. Only ever met them once lobbying, including Mary Lou, I can't say they made a positive impression - it felt more like an audience with rather than a meeting with.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,567 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Wee jaunt on this old girl tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭straight


    The person that never made a mistake never made anything. When you are in power for 100 years of. Of course there is going to be plenty mistakes.

    All of us landlords are not raking it in you know, we are being driven from the sector in our droves and the same with developers. They can't get the finance anymore because the profit margins aren't there. Building is just too bloody expensive due to the massive energy specs and building costs. But sure I'm sure SF and PBP will fix it with their magic wand. Actually PBP have legislation in front of the Dáil at the moment to start taking people's houses and moving in any resident of the state if there is a spare bedroom. Bunch of fruit cakes the lot of them.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,775 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I saw Richard Boyd Barrett of the People Before Profit–Solidarity, say recently that he wanted to put a cap on the price of food. I kid you not. This level of financial ignorance is frightening. He might as well put a cap on the price of oil.

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,567 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    We sold our rental. Partly couldn’t be dealing with entitles tenants and the risk of a SF government is too much. Estate agent said that 75% of rental business at the time was sales to private individuals with fear of SF government being prominent reasons.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,421 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Based on present polling, the next Govn't would be a SF/FF coalition. Other than that it could be a SF + various others in a minority Govn't.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭148multi


    SF voted for rising the pension age in the north while canvassing down here against it. I see little difference in them all, it appears to be a career choice and let the CS run the country.

    FF seem to be keeping a bit nearer the SF fire



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Is that an argument to live them there for another 100 years?? One of the big Drivers of construction costs here is the failure of succesive FFG governments to implement the Kenny report that capped the price of rezoned land(similar measures are in place across the EU). Between that and generous tax measures for vulture funds, ordinary people aren't getting a look in with large areas of the country now short of the likes of teachers and nurses who can't afford to live there. At least Leo the Leak will be happy to hear they have the big farmer vote sown up as usual🙄

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭straight


    I'd say you should run yourself and sort out the whole thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    SF have had their share of serious leaks aswell over the years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Sorry anyone that refers to the Taoiseach as Leo the leaks shows where there party alliances are.

    another person here who became an accidental landlord sue to negative equity. Also getting out of it as nonprofessional toon against tenants not paying and constantly looking for stuff tonne fixed , replaced. not risking a SF lead government here either. So that will unfortunately be another family looking for a new home due to the current constant media and populasist agenda about landlords .

    being a landlord is not a vocation. It’s not up to the private sector to sort out the accommodation crisis. As in all countries it should be done in a commercial basis . However due to the left agenda people are leaving in their drives .



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Using “FFG” and “Leo the Leak” doesn’t help your argument. It makes you look childish and immature to be honest.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    I guess it would be better then leaving in a totalitarian state where the government never changes, like some here seem to want....



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