Succession [HBO] *Spoilers*

Wow, I would've said Roman was youngest and that's why Logan manipulated* him most.

*not sure is manipulated is the right word

There's still an element of that, especially given that he's younger than Kendall and Kendall always seemed to be the one being primed to succeed Logan. Roman in many ways had to fight harder to build up into higher roles within the organisation, but that also made him more susceptible to being manipulated or swayed by Logan in order to please him.

Shiv in many ways had to do the same but veered more towards trying to impress Logan from the outside and trying too hard to show initiative so he'd eventually bring her in.

But even regardless of age, Roman is clearly the least mature of them all so probably took on the role of the youngest Roy by default anyway.

We may see him a bit more now for the funeral etc. He's a great actor.

That's part of why his character worked so well imo. He's very much a polar opposite to most of the rest of the family. Not interested in money or success, worried about the effect of the company globally. Yet he's still stayed on the board, still profits financially etc. I think his character was definitely used sparingly as it's not like any of the rest of the characters would ever listen to him or be affected by him (case in point: Greg wanting to sue Greenpeace to get his inheritence), but he provides a good contrast and reminder that Logan Roy came from nothing and has kept his whole family close and financially secure as much as possible, but that he's also tainted his children with that success as none of them, like Logan, can see outside of the company. Even Greg could have done what his grandfather wanted and gotten his $250m inheritence, but he's corrupted by the success of the rest of the Roys (and Tom) and wants to work his way higher to get more money.

Karl has quickly become my favourite character in this, he’s had some great little moments lately.

It’s quite clear that the comic relief role has shifted to him from Greg too, with the latter looking slimier by the week.

I feel like the show will end with Greg in a completely undeserved position of strength (financially, at least). Him latching onto the rich widow has only highlighted how much Tom has influenced him.

I enjoyed Kerry's humiliation a bit too much.

Have to hand it to Marcia all the same, she's well able for all-comers, with a well timed blade between the ribs.

Selling the town house over Logan's still cooling corpse was peak Marcia.

Marcia hated Greg in S1 and I don't think she's warmed to him much since.

And now Greg has become very unlikable to me, too. Though that's perhaps due to the allegations of having relations with underage girls that have come out recently about Nick Braun.

Greg has always been a sh*tty character, but he's usually been bullied by someone like Tom or Kendall, and he's funny, so he's always been a bit more sympathetic than others. I mean he was preparing to sue Greenpeace to protect his inheritence, but because the idea of suing Greenpeace was funny as well as Greg trying to rationalise it to people, it wasn't that bad.

But now you can see him trying to worm his way back into the "family" because he needs someone to latch on to and even if Gerri, Frank etc took over, they'd just sell the company to Mathison and peace out. Greg now wants to hitch his wagon to the kids because he wants to be involved in what they move onto.

Another great episode though. I do think Kendall's name was underlined rather than crossed out, but it's a moot point regardless. Kendall has taken it to mean he's the successor and now he's doing what he needs to make it a reality.

Is Shiv pregnant by Tom, or IVF? (Latter presumably?) Why was she so angry in the wake of the meeting where the 2 brothers were ratified - I thought she had accepted it as a done-deal? Did Kerry mumble to Roman that they were going to be married as they were picking up her belongings?

Though I can't remember it now, I loved the exchange between Marcia and Willa when the latter arrived to sympathise. Something like Marcia saying "You've come up (in the world now)", with Willa replying "You also".

Willa and her mother (who's an absolute dimwit) completely misread the room as they're audibly heard discussing apartment renovations by the mourners.

So much good stuff in this episode, arguably better than last weeks.

Not exactly sure if she's 20 weeks; her doctor says the 20-week scan will be the next milestone, but I don't think it specifically highlighted how far off it was.

Had a quick look on the succession wiki about Greg’s actions. He’s the butt of a lot of abuse but generally when he is asked to do something he delivers. He was also canny enough with his leverage on the cruise documents.

Was that really enough to impress Logan? Remember Greg didn’t have the privileged upbringing that the kids had, and maybe Logan gave him some credit for having the gumption to better himself.

Just rewatched S3 in prep for new series, and just noticed in the wedding episode that Con said to the other 3 siblings that he was there for "their mother".

Is Con only half brother to the other 3?

Yeah as per the previous post, he's Logan's son from an earlier marriage. Part of why Connor isn't involved in the business like the others; they grew up in the business, whereas Connor was a bit older and just ended up being given shares in the company and got the wealth and benefits from it rather than actually being part of the business.

Weird fact I saw yesterday though; the actor who plays Connor is only 10 years younger than Brian Cox who plays Logan, 66 and 76 respectively.

I presuming they still have to go through his will. I was thinking maybe he didn't leave the house to Marcia and therefore she can't sell it to Connor after all.

I did wonder if that fall in the previous episode meant something that is left open to interpretation?

Although I guess not enough time has passed between episodes for her to find out. Keep forgetting these recent episodes have been back to back days!

Wow. That was not “decent”. It was outstanding and Culkin was a amazing as Roman His attack at the end was one of the highlights of thenseason and personally I loved his line about the bear using his bathroom.