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Spring 2023 - General Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭denismc


    Great photos, are they from your phone or did you use an SLR?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Yes a DSLR, 20 second exposure, pity didn't get the best shots more focused and framed better, was actually quite breezy at the time too ( excuses, excuses! )........maybe tonight 😏



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    We are now less than 2 months away from the longest day of the year and we still are getting temperatures of 8 - 11 degrees we often get temperatures more than that on the shortest day of the year in december...theres something wrong somewhere and we say this nearly every year so its not unusual...climate change is our only hope but theres no sign of that either

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭esposito


    I’d much rather a cool Spring than a cool summer. Generally speaking in the last say 12 years cool Springs often followed by warm sunny summers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Climate change is our only hope????

    Be careful what you wish for.........



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  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    That's often the case, very normal. Often into May. And 2 months from the shortest day of the year we've recorded 20c. 19 October 1997. 1st November 2015, 19.8 in November 1989.

    This is our climate since the end of the mini ice age, circa 1850. There's been very little change. Nothing wrong. Just depending where the wind is coming from!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Only 6C today here in Meath and heating on since this morning. It could be Saturday before we see a pick up in temperatures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,973 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Still on a g6 for aurora and clear skies tonight. Seriously considering driving further north tonight



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Planning my spot for tonight, looking cold, will need to wrap up and bring a flask 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    A large reason for the poor spring this yr I think is down to the Stratospheric warming back in February.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,973 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Bringing a flask means having to pee. Peeing in the cold is not nice for women. I'm hitting the road now



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    Theres nothing right with it either...climate change is what we need other countries dont like the idea but thats because they are almost garanteed a good summer nearly every year and lasting nearly half the year or more in many places...do you want to live in muck all year round



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I'd rather live in muck all year round than face what countries like Spain are currently dealing with yes!



  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ragwort and Stones


    It's typical enough April weather, we can get 23C or 5C days at this time.

    I would suggest wishing for something we don't fully understand yet is dangerous. Also it might not stop at what we deem a 'perfect' climate. We have little control over it now. We could get something totally different and be an anomaly of cold in a warmer world with the gulf stream effected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Your talking complete nonsense. This is Ireland an island in the North Atlantic, what do you expect? This isn't Spain or Italy etc. I'd rather keep our climate the way it is for as as long possible . Our weather can be depressing at times but that's the way it is. Much of last yr was dry and we had a decent summer. You win some you lose some, regarding weather in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,415 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Yup, there is already and will be severe drought related problems across the world. We are talking huge migrations and war over water issues. Also, huge loss of wildlife and habitats.

    We are going to have to deal with the fallout from this and hope our climate remains kind.

    We are lucky with the rain we have. I think we've had some great spring, summers, autumns over the past few years. Also the winters have been very mild and not that stormy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I'm so jealous because I didn't see them here in carrick best northern lights show in 6 years though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I'm hoping we can see them tonight temperatures down to -4c possible tonight so wrap up , I may have to go in the middle of nowhere to see the northern lights



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    Yes it is an island in the north atlantic but in the past the weather was different too and probably like spain too at sometime...the point is it was not like this in the past and will not be like this in the future...climate change is neverending and always will be no matter how much you try to control it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    The Uk met office mountain forecast for the Mourne mountains had the freezing level around 500m for today and 600 to 700m for tomorrow afternoon. Quite low for a sunny day in the last week of of April.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,483 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    If you have clear conditions tonight would love to see your snaps!

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    The last 10,000 yrs or so the climate has been relatively stable though,which has helped humans to flourish.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Best of luck to you, looking good so far with plenty of blue sky and the cloud looks light enough. Hopefully everybody will get a good show tonight, don't get dehydrated 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    That tweet is from yesterday. Will it still be as good tonight?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭lolie


    Sadly its not looking good at all for tonight, the solar wind speed and density has dropped way down compared to last night.😞

    Currently Kp3 compared to Kp8-9 last night and the magnetic field is tilted North and we'd need it to flip South to have any chance to see the Aurora.

    https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/auroral-activity.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    I had a quick look towards the north and seen nothing. Frost forming on the cars. I wouldn't be surprised to see somewhere record -4 tonight.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Maybe just ever so faint. A let down with the skies so clear, ah well , until the next time.

    Very cold on Kerry head with a steady breeze, my hands were frozen. Car reading 4.0C when I was leaving although the breeze has died away.

    3.7C reading from my station atm.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,212 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Beautiful morning here in Castlebar. Long spells of sunshine. Tomorrow not looking as wet now either



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭lolie


    Beautiful morning here also if a little nippy, south Cavan. It has since couded over but at least its dry. Got down to -3 this morning.

    Just on the Aurora or lack of last night nothing showed up here on long exposure phone photos. Sunday night was a big one and its a sickner that most of us missed out on them again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    Spot on disgusting weather for 90 per cent of the year no sun at all besides the very odd day



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Since 2013 I think we've done quite well with decent spells of weather in the autumn, summer and spring bar a few exceptions. This Spring has been particularly poor and we had a very wet and miserable autumn too just before it. Spring last year was really good, as was most of summer from the end of June. The covid lockdown Spring in 2020 was also fantastic probably the best Spring I can ever remember. Summer 2021 was decent enough although not as good as 2022 and of course we had Summer 2018 which was also glorious. Autumn 2021 was a very warm and pleasant autumn, more like an extension of summer than autumn. Less said about our winters the better tho.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭compsys


    The average April temp in Ireland is 13º. What are you expecting? In Dublin at least it's been OK this month and we've had plenty of days around 13/14/15º.

    Yes - you might also get the odd day of 13º in Ireland in December. But in April almost every second day is 13º or so. That's the difference.

    We just had a three-day, well forecasted cold snap. It's not the end of the world. Almost every station is still recording ABOVE average temps for the month, according to MET E.

    By the way, it's cool all over Europe right now (apart from the Med). So we're not 'missing out'.

    It's still spring. It rarely warms up in Ireland (or parts of northern Europe) until mid-May.

    Like the recent weather, everyone needs to chill a bit...

    Far too many posters on here let their current mood and the current weather cloud their judgement...

    The sun will probably be splitting the stones next week and the same people will all be commenting how lovely a spring it's been...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,155 ✭✭✭OldRio


    In all fairness, if the sun splits the stones, this poster will not be saying how lovely spring has been.

    We've had rain for the majority of time since September in this area. Temperatures have been fine but the dullness and relentless rain are depressing. Spring has followed this similar pattern.

    Leitrim.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Kutebride


    Cloudy, dull, cool.

    No rain yet. Seems to be on west coast. Is it expected to hit Meath.

    12⁰ Meath.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Where is the rain that was forecast for today? Not that I am complaining



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,507 ✭✭✭cml387


    Indeed. Held off putting out clothes here and now the sun is out and it's quite warm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭acequion


    And you get a lot of posters who like to talk up the weather, maybe they're glass half full people. Maybe, those of us who complain are miserable gits or maybe we are just "tell it as it is" people. I'm afraid the weather in Kerry is pretty crap most of the time and it can be hard not to let it affect your mood. I tend to keep busy and am quite content if the rain stays at bay and won't get too greedy about temps with the exception of summer when low temps drive me mad. But sadly the rain doesn't stay at bay here in the rainiest county in Ireland and I personally spend a fortune every summer getting the hell out. I'd gladly stay if we got more summers like 2022. Right now I'm wondering if it's worth getting my windows cleaned as they are absolutely filthy from the constant muck. But if I fork out to have them cleaned will I get any value! 😩 Such is the reality of life here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Just looking at the radar now and it appears to be going up the West Coast



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Squeaksoutloud


    Forecast all over the place at the moment. Based on reading Met all day it's indicating a murky first half of the day and brightening up later..

    'Largely cloudy and dull to start tomorrow with patchy rain and drizzle. Turning brighter through the afternoon with sunny spells and scattered showers, the odd heavy shower possible. Highest temperatures of 15 to 18 degrees in light southwest to west breezes'

    Just watched 9pm news TV forecast and Gerry was saying the opposite! Bright sunny morning with cloud and showers building for the afternoon.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    At least we're losing the very cool/chilly weather of recent times, hopefully the end of winter style temperatures until at least November. Over the next 10 days temperatures generally look about 15 to 18C, sometimes reaching 19 or 20C, however it won't be settled and there will be showers at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭pauldry


    May looking a lot drier and warmer now. This is not a good sign though as we often get poor Summers after a good May. However I think the days of cool Summers are gone with climate change so itl be either normal temps and wet or warm and sunny. But likely mixed with a few short cool spells and hot spells too.

    Those places in Spain thar saw 38c might go down to 20c for a short while in May and then back up to 40c.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Historic day yesterday. Spain ,Portugal and Morroco all recording their warmest April day on record. Spain 38.8c (also a new record for Europe in April) ,Portugal 36.9c and Morroco 41.3c.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    With the drought they're having now these temps are particularly worrying, it's only bloody April. Food production is in trouble in Spain and they provide ireland with a lot of our fruit and veg. 8% of all UK food is from Spain, yikes. They'll need massive investment in water infrastructure in the coming years if they are to continue producing so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Yes ,very worrying indeed. The way I see it ,most heat records that are broken these days is another small step towards catastrophe. Might sound a bit OTT but that's the way I feel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭highdef


    If things continue, the food that is currently produced in Spain will be produced further north, in countries where the new weather regime suits those plants. For all we know and in the not so distant future, the UK and Ireland could become major fruit and vegetable producers of stuff we've not grown on a mass scale before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,479 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    so then who'll produce all the beef and dairy we produce now?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Food production in Ireland will not change, the weather here is the same now as when I was a child in the late 70s and early 80s. We still get loads of rain, cool and chilly weather, we are still chasing an all time temperature record that stretches back well over 100 years. We still get some very warm to hot summers which are nothing out of the ordinary. We got them in the 70s, 80s, 90s and at various times over the past 20 years. The Atlantic and its conveyer belt is still here and it's not going away any time soon. Our lack of sun compared to the rest of Europe is still the same. We will always be having beef and dairy production and won't be switching to mediterranean fruit production or wine production anytime soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭highdef


    We've plenty of land as we live in a relatively sparsely populated country. If the climate suited, there'd be plenty of space for cattle and other livestock and grow masses of crops.

    If conditions became unsuitable for livestock farming, then crop farming could be the de facto when it comes to farming.

    We are quite unique in that or climate is likely to be good for food production of some type for the foreseeable future. Think of the likes of the company, Osram. It was one of the biggest manufacturers of halogen lights bulbs for road vehicles. As LEDs became more and more commonplace, it seemed like the death knell for many companies like Osram, as they'd specialised in halogen and other filament based lighting solutions. But what happened, they adapted to the new "climate" of LED bulbs and they still make vast amounts of money, with revenues of about €4,800,000,000 last year.

    You could say that Osram were dairy farmers but things changed and they then became crop farmers instead, in order to keep themselves in business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,212 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Brightening up nicely here in Castlebar. Feeling much milder today.



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