Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Few Twitter rumours today that Dortmund are prepared to offer him a new contract with an €80m release clause that'll trigger next summer. Sounds like bull to me, but you never know

Possibly, but Spurs are also a shitshow who I wouldn't trust to develop a player these past couple years.

Good times that...

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Well it does ask the question of 'is he a great player or is he a good player who is flourishing in a certain system that suits his skillset'?

Possibly true. It was reported last summer that Bellingham's current contract has a €60M release clause that activates in 2024. If there isn't going to be an auction for the player this summer then a new contract with a higher release clause could be a reasonable compromise on the part of his club.

He needs to play regular football at a competitive level, he's getting games now essentially because there's no viable alternative available. Prior to his current run in the lineup his only league appearance in the starting lineup was against Nottingham Forest in October.

If Bajcetic wasn't injured, Jones would not be in the team. That's a pretty damning statement considering he has been around the squad since 2020. As things stand he is likely to be behind Tyler Morton in the squad selection order next season.

If he wants to have a career as a footballer then it's in his own best interest to move to a club where he can play regularly. There's no shame in dropping down to the Championship but I always get the impression from Jones that he has an inflated ego and he's comfortable hanging around the fringes of the main squad at Liverpool. He's under contract until 2027, so a loan move would be a good compromise for him.

I don’t know where MacAllister would fit in our system if we were to move for him. As you said he’s not a box to box with a big engine type player in the mould of Gini or Hendo. He plays the majority of time between the lines linking the midfield and forward players. He’s nearly more of a No.10 than a No.8! He could actually work really well if we were to switch to the 4-2-3-1 that some people have mentioned is on the cards and he could play in the central position behind the out and out front man. But I can’t see that happening mainly because, despite the talk about setting up this way, Klopp has yet to show that he’s willing to try it and MacAllister would be effectively another singing for our every growing forward line….

There was similar thinking about Thiago when there was speculation about him joining. Neither of the players are anywhere near the Wijnaldum mould. I could definitely see MacAllister replacing Thiago if there are also robust box to box players being added.

Thiago is great when he's fit but he's not up to the physicality of Klopp's setup and he has missed almost half of each season since he has joined. I'm not advocating getting rid of him immediately, just reducing our reliance upon him.

Mason Mount out for the rest of the season with a pelvic injury and will undergo surgery. https://www.sportbible.com/football/mason-mount-surgery-chelsea-injury-news-liverpool-transfer-795749-20230425

He's injured? Liverpool signing confirmed.

Thiago is under contract until 2024, unless you were suggesting we should sell him this year to recoup some bit of a transfer fee?

I’d be keeping him around. When the team is functioning all over the pitch, he’s the final piece that brings us up another level IMO.

No, I'd definitely keep Thiago for the next season.

Jones, I dunno. If he is sold to fund the midfield rebuild, I'm fine with it. If he is kept as a squad player, I'll give him the season to prove his worth.

I was just commenting on the recent posts/theme of the thread which was selling/releasing all the midfielders.

Oh yeah I wouldn't mind Jones going either if a replacement is got,just not good enough,but will be kept as a squad player imo.

Villa won again, dam we need to win tomorrow

Thiago just turned 32, he's our Modric, Thiago has 5 more seasons at the top, hopefully his injuries vanish.

No coincidence that a player like Thiago rarely missed a game for Bayern, yet is injured a lot with us, and it's the same for a lot of players that are subjected to the training style at Liverpool,

Liverpool winning all their remaining games = extremely unlikely

Newcastle winning only 3 of their remaining seven = very unlikely

United winning only winning 3 of their remaining 8 games = extremely unlikely.

Liverpool winning all their remaining games and one of the other scenarios happening = very extremely unlikely.

Needed Newcastle eto draw or lose to Spurs. Its done now.

I think there is merit in extending Thiago's contract provided it's on a reduced salary. He has a wealth of experience which he has been happy to share with the next generation of players and there's considerable value in that.

Klopp's philosphy was built on what I have described in the past as Energiser Bunny midfielders who were prepared to run themselves into the ground in every game to put their opponents under pressure and force quick turnovers. Our opponents adapted over a period of time and began to give up possession in an effort to force Liverpool to try to play through them. That exposed a glaring weakness in the team, as there was a distinct lack of creativity in midfield. Utilising Thiago brought us something different, his technical ability was what we were missing. Unfortunately he hasn't been up to the physicality of the Premier League and Klopp's training regime.

The situation with the lack of development of the squad should never have been allowed to occur, but it did and dealing with it in a sustained manner is our best hope of getting the team firing properly and challenging again. For this reason, I feel the team would be better served by phasing out the likes of Henderson and Thiago over time rather than making wholesale changes to the midfield and expecting results in one season.

Wijnaldum went straight into the starting lineup when he was signed from Newcastle. Fabinho occupied the bench for the first two months of his Liverpool career. Keita had to wait until December for his first start in the league. Thiago's debut was delayed due to a positive COVID test and but for Richarlison's 90th minute challenge on his first start he would have had an extended run in the team.

This limited sample size suggests that midfield signings that aren't elite level or that don't have previous Premier League experience aren't likely to get a place in the team from the start of their Liverpool career. It explains the strong links with the likes of Mount, Mac Allister, Caicedo and Nunes. They have the experience of playing in the league so it's just a matter of coaching them to play the role Klopp requires. On the other hand, the likes of Gravenberch would be expected to spend the early part of the season on the bench.

Hopefully Klopp won't break any of the new signings in training because having a panel of fit players for the midfield would be a novel experience for him.

I see we are wearing the white kit tonight,haven't won a game all season wearing that one

haha no, I'm just refusing to give up hope yet!

Same team as last day out bar Matip in for Konate.

Gomez just been so so awful at centreback this season that I think he's taken himself out of the running as a serious option if others are fit. He's done quite alright at RB, but at CB he's been a travesty.